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    H.265 has been approved.

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/25/h265-is-approved/

    With H.265, 4K streaming could be possible with as little as 20-30 Mbps of bandwidth. Still a lot by today’s standards, but not completely unheard of.
    This is great news, not only for 4K but for people with slow connection that want to be able to watch 720p or 1080p.
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    What is the global avg speed nowadays I wonder

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    Awesome! Can't wait to use it! Some of my own more recent YouTube videos have been in H264, I believe, so this works for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldazzar View Post
    What is the global avg speed nowadays I wonder
    According to NetIndex.com it is 12.93, however that number is being dragged down quite a bit by mobile users doing speed tests.
    Also Speedtest have issues with not being able to measure much higher than 100Mbit on a lot of their servers.
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    A properly compressed 10 bit encode is pretty damn small unless the encoders go full retard and bump up bit rates to useless levels and add flac audio, the likes of a 720p in normal 8bit can be anything from 250 to 500mb...a 10 bit of the same file will be 90 to 150 mb.
    I wonder just how small the files will be with a H.265 encode

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lagwin View Post
    A properly compressed 10 bit encode is pretty damn small unless the encoders go full retard and bump up bit rates to useless levels and add flac audio, the likes of a 720p in normal 8bit can be anything from 250 to 500mb...a 10 bit of the same file will be 90 to 150 mb.
    I wonder just how small the files will be with a H.265 encode
    It says in the article that it will enable 1080p to be almost half the bitrate of today, I don't expect the same compressions rate to be had at 720p but perhaps a 25-30% reduction.
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    Global average is 2.6Mbps (325~ kilobytes per second) according to Akami. Even when you break averages down by county, there's no country in the world anywhere close to having that kind of speed. South Korea being the highest a 15.7Mbps:

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/9/323...internet-speed

    Regardless, a shittier image quality from a (possible) global format is not a good thing for anyone with a capable connection.
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    Wouldn't worry about it too much. Still a few years before people are able to actually afford 4k TVs/Monitors. By then some countries will be pushing the 20mb/s mark.

    That said, nice to see it will be easier to stream 720/1080p content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by razorback07 View Post
    Wouldn't worry about it too much. Still a few years before people are able to actually afford 4k TVs/Monitors. By then some countries will be pushing the 20mb/s mark.

    That said, nice to see it will be easier to stream 720/1080p content.
    Don't think anyone is worrying about it. ;P We're more excited than anything.

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    I am curious to see how ISPs with download caps on them handle 4K standard in the future with the much larger files, will it be a small increase in bandwidth or are they going to have to push the caps way high.

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    For one, by that time, the caps should be higher anyways. Secondly, most people within the next 5 years who will be able to afford 4k displays at all, will also be able to afford internet packages with higher caps on them, anyways.

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    Good news, everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by glo View Post
    Global average is 2.6Mbps (325~ kilobytes per second) according to Akami. Even when you break averages down by county, there's no country in the world anywhere close to having that kind of speed. South Korea being the highest a 15.7Mbps:

    http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/9/323...internet-speed
    Akamia numbers are hardly accurate, the connection to Akamai servers can be over 1000 miles and have several bad routing issues on the way. Speedtest numbers are much more accurate even though they also are skewed by users doing test from their cellphones and such.

    Even big companies reject Akamai numbers. http://www.telecompaper.com/news/chu...akamai--905644
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadrin View Post
    I am curious to see how ISPs with download caps on them handle 4K standard in the future with the much larger files, will it be a small increase in bandwidth or are they going to have to push the caps way high.
    My ISP is quiet brutal with caps, but even them are going up to around 750gb a month when we get FTTH. I do think ISPs will always be forced to keep up though. In 3-4 years when services like netflix start streaming 4k, ISPs will be forced to react to this, or customers will just move else where.
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    Awesome, especially considering i got a fiber wire with 50/50 in about 9 months.

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    So good to live in Northern Europe. No Bandwidth caps or anything and prices are low

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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    http://techcrunch.com/2013/01/25/h265-is-approved/



    This is great news, not only for 4K but for people with slow connection that want to be able to watch 720p or 1080p.
    So, it's a way of compression with little loss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noomz View Post
    So, it's a way of compression with little loss?
    Yes it is a more effective way of compressing video.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldazzar View Post
    What is the global avg speed nowadays I wonder
    dont know but here in Quebec, Canada I've got 50Mbps Down and 50 up

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-26 at 04:26 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by MMKing View Post
    Awesome, especially considering i got a fiber wire with 50/50 in about 9 months.
    I got this here ...and 50/50 ..are you with Bell.
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