“Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
I can say this, per my exp. Alliance for me, wins SSM, the ball game, AV, sota, IOC, and Gilneas 50% or more. Blacklist AV and EOTS
also Bg's are only about skill if there is an equal number of healers. Since most players are bad, on either side. healers win the game
Use BG spy to know when you'll win or lose xD
In Battlegrounds such as Arathi Basin, Warsong Gulch, Silvershard Mines and Temple one person CAN make and break those battlegrounds. Even if you're a damage based class you can literally be the deciding factor in battlegrounds. This is why when you're on a poorly geared alt you typically lose a lot more often as opposed to running them with your geared main. So keep that in mind before you simply point the finger at your teammates for being "bad", you (more than likely) are not helping.
As for the whole Alliance losing more than Horde debate, are we back in 2006 when this was (even then) a ridiculous statement? I have been playing both faction since April of '05 and I have been running battlegrounds since Warsong Gulch was released. At no point in World of Warcraft has there been an advantage of being either faction in terms of win/loss ratio. EVER. Any statistic stating otherwise is complete bullshit. You know what determines whether or not YOU win or lose? YOU DO! Sure carrying 9-14 other players is not logical and in some cases it is impossible, BUT if you are finding this to be an issue simply do this, go into trade chat, type "Looking for More for Some Random Battlegrounds 55% Res. requirement". Acquire two healers and three DpS, queue for a random battleground. As long as your premade is not completely brain dead you will at least have a win/loss ratio of 60/40. If at least three of you know what you're doing you will likely be 80/20. It really is not difficult, you are playing an MMO, you need to group with people to succeed. I do not know how some of you have not figured this out by now.
My stats show that I have won 872/1627 bgs. I've played 99% random battlegrounds and that number is probably way off depending on when the stats track back to -- I played a ton of wsg/ab/av in vanilla.
The problem is you remember the losses more than the wins.
My win rates as Alliance are stupid high for AV and Isle of Conquest, like 85%+ Also since I came back I have really been enjoying a lot of wins in Temple of Kotmogu. I think Alliance does well at Temple cause you dont really need healers and all you do is sit at mid and blow people up. Something alliance excels at. I dont know what it is about AB, EoTS, and Gilneas but we are just horrible at those. WSG and Twin Peaks are probably close to 50:50. Strand is iffy. Some brackets I get all wins and some I lose them all. Same at max level some days I will win a lot and some days cant buy a win.
But AB and EoTS are probably the ones that require actual strategy and maybe thats why we lose most of them. Same with Gilneas. Most of the time I will say "Lets hit WW theres only 2 there" and then I watch 5 people head to mine and only 2 with me. Or we will have 7 people decide that they need to defend LH and its just me and 1 other person left to 2v8 their team and that always goes well. Same in AB. I like sitting at LM on my priest cause I can see everything and can call out INCs. I will watch half our team try and take BS and the other half go to mines and the end result is everyone dies and then horde pushes and takes stables and then everyone gets farmed. And Im going OK wtf there was 1 person at farm and 7 at BS why did we send 3 people to BS instead of farm? EoTS is just Horde farmville. If I get EoTs I just /afk out from the start. Id rather do something else for 15 mins rather than pound my keyboard.
I think this thread probably comes from the weekend experience. Alliance, for some reason, has had an unusually low win % on my server group this past weekend. I don't know if it's because the Alliance players were worse or because the Horde had a lot of pre mades rolling or a combination of both. I've won 4/17 bgs all weekend. That sample size is far far too small to draw any conclusions from I know, but it's the same story for everyone I've mentioned it to on my server.
I've seen other weekends go hard the other way, and I've seen weekends where it's 50/50. I prefer the 50/50 weekends, getting steamrolled sucks and driving the steamroller gets boring, for me a good hard fight with a close score at the end is by far the best pvp. My guess is that I'm far from alone with that statement.
It's because of people like OP that believe that "alliance never wins" that alliance loses many matches. I have more wins than losses and i have always played alliance. What i have noticed is that if alliance is losing everyone starts to demoralize the team in bg chat, while when horde is losing i see them trying to get back to the last minute.
All in all i think alliance is slightly better at bg's, maybe because many pvp'rs like the human racial. But because of people like OP who start demoralizing as soon as alliance is losing a bit, people tend to "lose quick" instead of trying to win until the game is over like horde's usually do. All of this is not because of different people playing horde/alliance it is because of the misconception that "alliance never wins" and the people trying to uphold that misconception.
Doesnt it all come down to which team got less bots?
I mean, im starting to think blizzard doesnt care about Bots anymore. Im even sure they dont. Its just way out of controle with all those bots running around in BGs!
Main(s) since Classic:
Hunter and Enha sham
Alliance win 70% where i play. Its a joke, dont even bother with pvp anymore. No one speaks anyway.
Reading some of your comments back at people who are replying here. I can tell you are one of those 1500 players who in a random BG going for HKs ad then /QQ in BG chat caus we are losing the fight. Call us bads and go full rage trip how we should stop PvPing. Aye i do think you are one of the reason you just lose bgs
btw queing up with friends might help if you got some ofc
Without a doubt Alliance pvp player base is much worse than Horde.
Their is no question about it.