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  1. #421
    Quote Originally Posted by orissa View Post
    What do you have against John Boehner?
    Truthfully, this is the most idiotic comment in here. It really isn't funny purely due to the fact the guy has naturally tanned skin and/or tans. It's not like he has a medical condition to where your comment would have been slightly hinting at.

  2. #422
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Alright, I admit it. I am racist against people with oompa-loompa skin.
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  3. #423
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    Racism is a form of prejudice, which is always wrong because it both pre-judges a person based on limited information, and presumes things to be true whether they are or not.

    However, STEREOTYPES are a valuable tool for quickly forming a frame of reference. There is nothing wrong with stereotyping as long as you do not let it become a prejudice. There's a difference.

    However, the term 'Racism' has been so bastardized and dilluted by both sides of the political spectrum that the term no longer holds any meaning. Like the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf - people scream racism so often for such trivialities and minutea that it has become so much background static. Which is really a shame, because it makes instances of real racism and actual prejudice all that much harder to take seriously.

  4. #424
    I'm racist as hell. I'm also a minority. But I don't hate anyone over their race, and I certainly don't act different towards people based on color. But I will admit that if someone acts a certain way, I can say "it's because they're (race here)". It's really just an informal, shorthand version of me recognizing who someone is without going into the specifics and detail. It's a cultural, psychological, educational thing that makes people who they are, and it just so happens that often times people who have the same cultural, psychological, and educational experiences tend to be of the same color. Because most people of the same color stick around in the same environments, and thus they experience relatively the same thing. It's common sense, not racist. Racism is misunderstood, but I've given up on trying to get that idea across, so I'll just agree that sure, I'm racist.
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  5. #425
    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    Slightly off-topic. I think its quite honestly hilarious how a black person can call another black "nigga" but if a white person did it, it's a whole different story.

    I also think it's hilarious how a black person will call another black person "brotha" or "cuz". I guess it's just cultures, but still.
    Eh, I can understand where they're coming from with the N word, trying to give a positive spin to something that was used against them and stuff, I personally feel like the word has too much negative history but that's just a difference of opinion.

    Cuz iirc is only really used by the Crips gang? Saying it randomly could get you into a lot of shit as (once again working from a vague memory) it's used to identify other gangbangers, so saying it is like making yourself a target.

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    Telling people not to Google something usually makes them want to Google it, just don't Google 'chupacabra porn'.
    Was disappointed at the lack of results :<

  6. #426
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowmelded View Post
    Was disappointed at the lack of results :<
    But you still Googled it.

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  7. #427
    To be honest, everybody has a little bit of racism hidden in them. I don't believe that there's a single person out there who has never said (even when the other person wasn't listening) or thought of anything racist in his/her entire life. Anyway, Its not a big deal unless you make it a big deal. However, if you run around calling people stuff or if for example you choose to fire or not hire a guy/girl just because he/she is different than you are, well then yeah it is a big deal and you are an asshole.
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  8. #428
    Quote Originally Posted by sxefluff View Post
    I'm racist as hell. I'm also a minority. But I don't hate anyone over their race, and I certainly don't act different towards people based on color. But I will admit that if someone acts a certain way, I can say "it's because they're (race here)". It's really just an informal, shorthand version of me recognizing who someone is without going into the specifics and detail. It's a cultural, psychological, educational thing that makes people who they are, and it just so happens that often times people who have the same cultural, psychological, and educational experiences tend to be of the same color. Because most people of the same color stick around in the same environments, and thus they experience relatively the same thing. It's common sense, not racist. Racism is misunderstood, but I've given up on trying to get that idea across, so I'll just agree that sure, I'm racist.
    Give this man the nobel prize!

  9. #429
    Quote Originally Posted by Bergtau View Post
    just don't Google 'chupacabra porn'.
    Damn it...
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    I sometimes hold down my vent talk button when talking to people in real life.
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  10. #430
    Quote Originally Posted by The Riddler View Post
    Racism is a form of prejudice, which is always wrong because it both pre-judges a person based on limited information, and presumes things to be true whether they are or not.

    However, STEREOTYPES are a valuable tool for quickly forming a frame of reference. There is nothing wrong with stereotyping as long as you do not let it become a prejudice. There's a difference.

    However, the term 'Racism' has been so bastardized and dilluted by both sides of the political spectrum that the term no longer holds any meaning. Like the Little Boy Who Cried Wolf - people scream racism so often for such trivialities and minutea that it has become so much background static. Which is really a shame, because it makes instances of real racism and actual prejudice all that much harder to take seriously.
    I think everybody is influenced by their experiences and their limited knowledge. If I were to meet 3 martians(going with something safe here) and all 3 of them tried to steal my wallet, my experiences would establish a bias towards not trusting martians. As a human being I have to go beyond that and be careful not to prejudge people based on my limited experience.

    Let's also not confuse racism with statistics and biological facts. People of different races are biologically different. Japanese people have longer digestive tracts for example. Some races are more prone to certain diseases and conditions than others. We are in fact different. The thing is we need to look at each individual and judge them as an individual person based on who they are not on what the statistics or your previous limited experience may say.

  11. #431
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I admit I am culturally racist. I believe Western Civilization is superior to others and should be the paradigm towards which others aspire. So sue me.
    That's not really "racist".

    I agree though. We're doing it right.

  12. #432
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    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    I'm not saying it's genetically programmed into them (I surely hope no-one thinks that? lol) but to say blacks doesn't commit more murders than white people is ignoring facts. To say whites don't commit more pedophiliac (yea I made it up) acts is once again, ignoring the facts.

    I hope you don't think I was implying if you are black you will inherently commit a murder compared to a white person. I'm simply saying statistically speaking black people commit more murders than white people, etc.

    Slightly off-topic. I think its quite honestly hilarious how a black person can call another black "nigga" but if a white person did it, it's a whole different story.

    I also think it's hilarious how a black person will call another black person "brotha" or "cuz". I guess it's just cultures, but still.

    Man, when I read text of how I feel about these things I really am racist I guess... :-/
    Yeah that's what I thought you were saying. And yeah I understand, statistically specific races do or are more prone to doing specific things, but like I said before, it's because of society, perception, and social issues.

  13. #433
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    That's not really "racist".

    I agree though. We're doing it right.
    Yeah that just judging a cultural system based on perceived merits.

    its the difference between "WHITE PRIDE!" and "I believe Western Civilization's emphasis on personal liberty is the best model for a culture to be based on"
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    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
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    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

  14. #434
    Quote Originally Posted by Odyseas View Post
    To be honest, everybody has a little bit of racism hidden in them. I don't believe that there's a single person out there who has never said (even when the other person wasn't listening) or thought of anything racist in his/her entire life. Anyway, Its not a big deal unless you make it a big deal. However, if you run around calling people stuff or if for example you choose to fire or not hire a guy/girl just because he/she is different than you are, well then yeah it is a big deal and you are an asshole.
    The wonderful country we are in though, you get rewarded for hiring minorities. Silly, right? It's basically a form of (probably not even a word) anti-racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Zait- View Post
    Yeah that's what I thought you were saying. And yeah I understand, statistically specific races do or are more prone to doing specific things, but like I said before, it's because of society, perception, and social issues.
    So then realistically, you agree with me, that people who don't like their race being portrayed in a negative light have no-one to blame but their own race? Surely the white man isn't causing X race to commit murders. Surely the black man isn't cause a white man to touch little kids. See what I mean?

  15. #435
    Quote Originally Posted by sxefluff View Post
    I'm racist as hell. I'm also a minority. But I don't hate anyone over their race, and I certainly don't act different towards people based on color. But I will admit that if someone acts a certain way, I can say "it's because they're (race here)". It's really just an informal, shorthand version of me recognizing who someone is without going into the specifics and detail. It's a cultural, psychological, educational thing that makes people who they are, and it just so happens that often times people who have the same cultural, psychological, and educational experiences tend to be of the same color. Because most people of the same color stick around in the same environments, and thus they experience relatively the same thing. It's common sense, not racist. Racism is misunderstood, but I've given up on trying to get that idea across, so I'll just agree that sure, I'm racist.
    Not really racist, just stereotypical. Racist is outright saying one is greater than the other. Stereotypical is what us Mexicans refer to as being observant LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Yeah that just judging a cultural system based on perceived merits.

    its the difference between "WHITE PRIDE!" and "I believe Western Civilization's emphasis on personal liberty is the best model for a culture to be based on"
    We are sophisticated racists.
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  17. #437
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    I've done the forums things before on other sites and usually somewhere along the lines somebody will try to label me a racist. Over the years I've grown to accept it (dont really think I am though). I've never hurt somebody over race, hell I still hold a door open for somebody other than my race, I treat them absolutely the same irl but I am a lot more wary of some races compared to others. I guess what it stems down to is being a realist that acknowledges some races are prone to violence, drugs, and general mayhem. Don't really know what I'm trying to get out of this but I'm tired of others thinking racist people are bad. There is many degrees of racism, please don't lump all of us together and dismiss an individual so easily because he/she doesn't think like you.
    What you just described is not racism, but prejudice. Being racist is terrible and alot of people do not realize the difference between the two, it is a HUGE difference.

    Prejudice is unavoidable from what I have seen as most races are good at sticking towards their stereotypes thus legitimizing prejudice towards them. Prejudice does not have to be negative or positive. It is just prejudging people based on their race which I am sure most people do.
    nothing but empty space here bro. move along now.

  18. #438
    Quote Originally Posted by alturic View Post
    The wonderful country we are in though, you get rewarded for hiring minorities. Silly, right? It's basically a form of (probably not even a word) anti-racist.

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-27 at 08:26 PM ----------



    So then realistically, you agree with me, that people who don't like their race being portrayed in a negative light have no-one to blame but their own race? Surely the white man isn't causing X race to commit murders. Surely the black man isn't cause a white man to touch little kids. See what I mean?
    It's not anti-racism, it's not reverse racism, it's racism. It exists to compensate for racism in job hiring, but if we truly desire a society where people coexist peacefully and skin color is no different than eye color or hair color, this type of thing has to go.

  19. #439
    Quote Originally Posted by sxefluff View Post
    I'm racist as hell. I'm also a minority. But I don't hate anyone over their race, and I certainly don't act different towards people based on color. But I will admit that if someone acts a certain way, I can say "it's because they're (race here)". It's really just an informal, shorthand version of me recognizing who someone is without going into the specifics and detail. It's a cultural, psychological, educational thing that makes people who they are, and it just so happens that often times people who have the same cultural, psychological, and educational experiences tend to be of the same color. Because most people of the same color stick around in the same environments, and thus they experience relatively the same thing. It's common sense, not racist. Racism is misunderstood, but I've given up on trying to get that idea across, so I'll just agree that sure, I'm racist.
    Perfectly said. I totally understand what you mean here.

  20. #440
    Quote Originally Posted by oxymoronic View Post
    I've done the forums things before on other sites and usually somewhere along the lines somebody will try to label me a racist. Over the years I've grown to accept it (dont really think I am though). I've never hurt somebody over race, hell I still hold a door open for somebody other than my race, I treat them absolutely the same irl but I am a lot more wary of some races compared to others. I guess what it stems down to is being a realist that acknowledges some races are prone to violence, drugs, and general mayhem. Don't really know what I'm trying to get out of this but I'm tired of others thinking racist people are bad. There is many degrees of racism, please don't lump all of us together and dismiss an individual so easily because he/she doesn't think like you.
    I don't think you're racist. I live on the border of white suburbia and black slums. Me being wary of a black man is more a function of education, lack of good jobs, and drugs rather than the color of their skin.

    It's unfortunate when a community is stricken by poverty, which often leads to poor education and higher drug use, and also predominantly one race. While I do tend to associate MY TOWN and race - I don't carry it around to other places and people I meet. This, I believe, is the difference between just knowing the town and people around you, and racism.

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