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    If your someone who is humble, then it won't matter. If your someone who can throw racial slurs around with people, but at the same time you can take insults thrown your way and laugh it of, then it doesn't matter.

    however, if your someone who likes insulting people because of ethnicity, gender or orientation, but then someone finds something different in you and insults you, and you hate it and take insult to it, then.. well, your a dick.

    If a straight friend of mine makes jokes about me being gay, I just come back with insults about things there into, and both get laughed off. Thats where its acceptable to a degree.

  2. #1062
    no it isn't there are many kinds of idiots in the world racists are just one of them

    races prone to violence? really? what races? i can only think of orcs that fit that description

    you simply do not understand ALOT of things regarding violence and what causes someone to turn to it,that's why you think it's a racial issue,ofc you are wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by vassilisz View Post
    races prone to violence? really? what races? i can only think of orcs that fit that description
    *and that predator race from the predator movies. They're pretty violent...
    Still bitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukh View Post
    *and that predator race from the predator movies. They're pretty violent...
    Or Vorcha. Violence is a form of communication to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Wait what happened to blacks was tame? Black people weren't taken from a country had their culture destroyed and their language destroyed, that never happened? How is that "tame" the native americans durring this whole slavery time were the ones who would capture blacks who got away. Tame my ass... jeez you sound so so off. Also Natives do complain... the thing is their population is really low. What past probelms? Red man is no where near as offensive as nigger...[COLOR="red"]
    I hope you realize white people didn't just go in and steal black people from Africa. In the beginning of the slave trade that happened a bit, but European slave expeditions would always get so beaten down by malaria and parasites it wasn't economically feasible to continue. What they did the vast majority of the time was buy POW's and people already made into slaves from African tribes warring with one another. Every time one tribe took an enemy village prisoner they would typically gather up the population and sell them to Europeans on the coast. Africans sold out their own.

    Also, black culture wasn't destroyed nearly to the degree Indian culture was. Where do you think most of america's music comes from (jazz, blues, spirituals etc...)? Tribal music that got mixed into English and added onto later. Also, many of the cultures from back then can still be found in parts Africa today, unlike true native American culture.
    By past problems I mean corruption and alcohol abuse.
    While their communities are small, when some do complain, they are heard. The Supreme Court is generally very lenient when it comes to reviewing tribe cases.

    Also there are plenty of obnoxious racial slurs that can and are thrown about concerning Indians. The thing is, Indians generally don't give a shit what some racist says about them, because those words are exactly that. Words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defengar View Post
    I hope you realize white people didn't just go in and steal black people from Africa. In the beginning of the slave trade that happened a bit, but European slave expeditions would always get so beaten down by malaria and parasites it wasn't economically feasible to continue. What they did the vast majority of the time was buy POW's and people already made into slaves from African tribes warring with one another. Every time one tribe took an enemy village prisoner they would typically gather up the population and sell them to Europeans on the coast. Africans sold out their own.
    You talk as if they are one people. The Africans didnt any more sell their own than the Germans keeping Polish POWs as servants was enslaving their own. All they share is skincolor. Only those who equate skincolor with kin would refer to that as selling their own.

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    racists must be sent to gulags
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    You talk as if they are one people. The Africans didnt any more sell their own than the Germans keeping Polish POWs as servants was enslaving their own. All they share is skincolor. Only those who equate skincolor with kin would refer to that as selling their own.
    Sorry then. Africans sold out Africans.

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    Personally I might have been conditioned by the media/movies to hold certain stereotypes about races, I find that in life I meet too many people who don't fit them for the stereotypes to be all that accurate. I find that it is a lot easier to apply certain prejudices in theory to a race than to apply it to dealing with specific people of that race in actual real life situations. So yes, I may have an occasional fleeting racist thought, but in practice I treat people of different skincolors the same in life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Defengar View Post
    Sorry then. Africans sold out Africans.
    And? Does that make it okay?
    I dont really see it excusing the Roman empire for its use of slaves that it was other white people selling white people to them and not directly Romans catching them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    And? Does that make it okay?
    I dont really see it excusing the Roman empire for its use of slaves that it was other white people selling white people to them and not directly Romans catching them.
    Don't forget indentured servitude in most countries (including all of Europe) at some point. Indentured servitude is pretty much just another term for slavery since 1. labor is free, 2. the land people till and its fruits belong to the upper crust and they MAY get enough to survive off of, 3. it's basically a caste system, born a serf, die a serf, no upward social mobility possible with very few exceptions, 4. master can marry/sell/lose in a poker game whole villages of serfs. And yeah, it's white owners of white serfs, same nationality, same language, same religion. Even if chiefs in Africa sold their own fellow tribesmen into American/European slavery, it doesn't make or break the case for racism either way.

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    I think it would be kinda sexy to be someone's slave for a day, roleplay wise.
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    "Yes Mistress, right away Mistress."

    *drooling*

    Anyway, continuing my mantra of "all racists are jerks, no exceptions." Toodaloo then.

  13. #1073
    Quote Originally Posted by Speaknoevil View Post
    Anyway, continuing my mantra of "all racists are jerks, no exceptions." Toodaloo then.
    But racists are ignorant. Ignorant people are jerks?

    Are you a jerk for not knowing something your not interested in?
    No world! You put YOUR hands up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Electromatt View Post
    But racists are ignorant. Ignorant people are jerks?

    Are you a jerk for not knowing something your not interested in?
    • I know what you're saying, but ignorance doesn't entirely remove responsibility.

    • I am a jerk, yes, but I'm always trying to be better. Ignorance isn't what I'm really guilty of though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    And? Does that make it okay?
    I dont really see it excusing the Roman empire for its use of slaves that it was other white people selling white people to them and not directly Romans catching them.
    Oh it doesn't make it okay at all. Slavery was a disgusting and vile institution back then, and it remains so today (there are actually more slaves today than at any point in human history, some of the shit companies do to workers in corrupt third world countries is sickening). I was just pointing out Africans had a large hand in their own enslavement. Europeans could never have pulled it off on their own without all those tribes willingly selling each other for goods and gold. A lot of history books try to say big bad whitey came in and stole 20 million Africans like it was nothing.

  16. #1076
    Quote Originally Posted by Defengar View Post
    Oh it doesn't make it okay at all. Slavery was a disgusting and vile institution back then, and it remains so today (there are actually more slaves today than at any point in human history, some of the shit companies do to workers in corrupt third world countries is sickening). I was just pointing out Africans had a large hand in their own enslavement. Europeans could never have pulled it off on their own without all those tribes willingly selling each other for goods and gold. A lot of history books try to say big bad whitey came in and stole 20 million Africans like it was nothing.
    Blame white people for slavery
    government offers reimbursements to black people
    black people become dependent on government
    black people are slaves again.

    seems to be working so far in the U.S....
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  17. #1077
    Quote Originally Posted by Defengar View Post
    Oh it doesn't make it okay at all. Slavery was a disgusting and vile institution back then, and it remains so today (there are actually more slaves today than at any point in human history, some of the shit companies do to workers in corrupt third world countries is sickening). I was just pointing out Africans had a large hand in their own enslavement. Europeans could never have pulled it off on their own without all those tribes willingly selling each other for goods and gold. A lot of history books try to say big bad whitey came in and stole 20 million Africans like it was nothing.
    Strong enough to colonize but not enough to kidnap? That's complete and utter whitewashing nonsense. Nonsense that only serves the dishonest purpose to lessen the blame on whites. Who were most to blame, when you look at the entire process of chattel slavery. Not just the "taking slaves" part. The only reason Euros didn't engage in full scale kidnapping was because it was cheaper to use the Africans to do their dirty work for them. It was a business venture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Booshman View Post
    Strong enough to colonize but not enough to kidnap? That's complete and utter whitewashing nonsense. Nonsense that only serves the dishonest purpose to lessen the blame on whites. Who were most to blame, when you look at the entire process of chattel slavery. Not just the "taking slaves" part. The only reason Euros didn't engage in full scale kidnapping was because it was cheaper to use the Africans to do their dirty work for them. It was a business venture.
    Sure it was a business venture, as said before, it was not profitable for the Europeans to do the dirty work most of the time because sub Sahara Africa is an environmental hell hole filled with lions and tigers and malaria. And Europeans had no built up immunity to any other nasty pathogens that inhabit the continent.

    What colonization? Often times Europeans powers would just go in with an army, kill a few natives, and claim the land as their own, leaving a few mining companies behind. Almost all European settlement was on the coast. The only time I can remember Europeans spending extensive amounts of time and resources in central Africa was when the Belgians under Leopold II went into the Congo and made it even more of a living hell for a couple decades.

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    not really, it's fun!

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    Why does no one take socio-economic issues into account. The race is not born bad. It is the society a group of people are brought up in that's crap and it all stems from history and past issues. When you start from the bottom, good luck making your way up to the top.

    Here is something I never got, how come White people don't get judged as a whole when one white person does something but when it's the other way around shit hits the fan and the entire race is going to be judged.

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