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    monk WW stats

    i used to play a resto shammy for many years, but have decided just lately to make my ww monk my new main & was wondering what the main stats are for the class? ive looked through the ww monk guide on mmo & there are a lot of options that i have looked at & chosen, but i would like someone to possibly post here where i am going wrong? i do not do too bad dps, but i would obviously like to do better the further i get with this char. any criticism if contructive is obviously welcome, but a gentle push in the right direction would be wonderful

    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Bamboo/simple is my char & ty for reading

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    You may wish to put some of that Mastery into Haste. Your Haste is a little bit low - I personally would never go for below 3.5K. You can also adjust your Hit/Expertise - your Expertise is nearly 8%, which I know can be brought down to being closer to 7.5%.

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    Hit/Ex 7.5% > Haste to 3.6-4.3K (4.3K only when you are at a much higher item level than you are currently) > Crit >>>>>>>> Mastery

    Note that this will change in a few months in 5.2.

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    alysmera is correct, however some players still favor Haste 5k+, but it kinda depends on your gear, weapon availability, talents and playstyle (FoF).

    Windwalkers are ranking with both Haste or Crit prioritised - for the time being until 5.2.

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    thanks guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi87 View Post
    alysmera is correct, however some players still favor Haste 5k+, but it kinda depends on your gear, weapon availability, talents and playstyle (FoF).
    Running at > 6k haste for BrM and then swapping to WW for some fights it's waaaay to much haste. I can't see needing more than 5k haste as a dedicated WW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealNight View Post
    Running at > 6k haste for BrM and then swapping to WW for some fights it's waaaay to much haste. I can't see needing more than 5k haste as a dedicated WW.
    Yep. We just can't use it nearly as much as rogues, as a WW you're at 1 jab per finisher. For a rogue it's significantly higher- generally 2-3 mutilates depending per finisher, and it costs a good bit more for instance.

    I think that's (partially) why they're changing the mastery, so we're less GCD/EN capped as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealNight View Post
    Running at > 6k haste for BrM and then swapping to WW for some fights it's waaaay to much haste. I can't see needing more than 5k haste as a dedicated WW.
    As a matter of fact I know Windwalkers laying between 5k-6k Haste, it heavily depends on the factors I already mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi87 View Post
    As a matter of fact I know Windwalkers laying between 5k-6k Haste, it heavily depends on the factors I already mentioned.
    I'll point out that in BiS gear, it's roughly impossible to get below 5K haste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alysmera View Post
    I'll point out that in BiS gear, it's roughly impossible to get below 5K haste.
    Never said it was in BiS gear

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    First of all I would create some consistency between gemming and reforging, decide on a stat and go full out on that, for example you have pretty low haste, with agi + 2ndary stat (mastery? wtf) gems, get some haste gems in there until you feel you can go with agi + haste (or crit even) hybrids. And then do the same with reforging, why would you gem expertise while leaving mastery un-reforge, instead of reforging mastery > expertise? Then gemming hit > crit and later exp > hit? Seems like it could be made much simpler.
    it seems you've followed some reforging site am I right? I would advise against it unless you edit your weights properly.

    Sort out your gemming and reforging and to summarize: Gem haste until you feel you can go agi + haste/crit without be able to spam your rotation at all times. Reforge using some simple rules:
    1. If you are lacking Exp/hit. reforge from your worst stat (mastery,parry,dodge)
    2. if you have too much exp/hit. reforge to your best stat (haste/crit)
    3. if both are capped, check all your items making sure you have reforged out off all your "bad" stats (mastery,dodge,parry).

    Quote Originally Posted by SurrealNight View Post
    Running at > 6k haste for BrM and then swapping to WW for some fights it's waaaay to much haste. I can't see needing more than 5k haste as a dedicated WW.
    nowai, im at 7,1k haste and if it wasn't for the Ascension talent I would have wanted more, I also have really good energy/chi flow without ever capping.
    Last edited by Muppsan; 2013-01-27 at 03:00 AM.

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    I have been playing ~3.8k haste (with a 2hander, stupid RNG on loot) and when BL/energizing is up I pretty much cap everytime. 1 CB:BK is enough to make my energy go up before I can even use any Chi.

    I still wont go lower tho because if I dont have ~4k it feels sooo slow without brew/BL. And if you have some badluck with combobreaker you pretty much have to wait from 0 energy to 40 without doing anything except flying serpent...

    I guess the new mastery will help alittle since I will get a lower chance to proc CB so I can go up in haste. Still think that its to random right now. I feel terribad when I energy cap

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyuubi87 View Post
    Never said it was in BiS gear
    You said you know WWs at those stats, and most of the ones I know who aren't sub-5K are in BiS. A few have mentioned to me that they really wish they could go lower, as a matter of fact. And these guys - IMO - are amazing. I wish I had their skill

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    Quote Originally Posted by alysmera View Post
    You said you know WWs at those stats, and most of the ones I know who aren't sub-5K are in BiS. A few have mentioned to me that they really wish they could go lower, as a matter of fact. And these guys - IMO - are amazing. I wish I had their skill
    I do, but I never said what gear they were/are wearing

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