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    Quote Originally Posted by Veyne View Post
    I'm going to have to stop you right there.

    Garrosh defeated Cairne fairly. Garrosh intended to let Cairne live because he had too much respect for Cairne to intentionally kill him, despite agreeing to a mortal dual. Leaving Garrosh wounded and defeated, it was the poison he was unaware of that actually killed him. He won the duel, the death was purely accidental.

    ITT, peoples arguing about lore that they don't know about.
    I'll correct you there. In the fight, it was showing Cairne was the experienced warrior. Infact Golden make it very clear Cairne was winning, and all Garrosh got was one small cut on cairnes chest, which is what instantly poisoned him and allowed Garrosh an opening to bury gorehowl in cairnes chest.... OH GOD, I want siege NOW to bloody kill that walking turd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herrenos View Post
    One of the things that always kinda bothered me about warriors in WoW - What good is any warrior against a magician? Azerothian warriors must have some kind of magic that's not in the lore. A fireball to the face, being electrocuted multiple times, or a half dozen magical wasting diseases would take out any warrior. At least paladins have the protection of the light
    Warriors are like Shocktroopers. Imagine a massive, screaming, rage-fueled, warrior in heavy and magically reinforced armor charging straight at you.
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  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildmoon View Post
    Thrall NEVER did anything significant to Archimonde. You could hardly call that Thrall injured Archimonde. Arch didn't even think Thrall and his orcs worth his time. Only things he thought as a threat to the legion are Malfurion and NEs. "You orcs are weak and hardly worth the effort! I wonder why Mannoroth even bothered with you!" Archimonde
    Are you serious, if your going to use a line from warcraft 3 make sure its not the same one where Archimonde admits Thrall hurt him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I'll correct you there. In the fight, it was showing Cairne was the experienced warrior. Infact Golden make it very clear Cairne was winning, and all Garrosh got was one small cut on cairnes chest, which is what instantly poisoned him and allowed Garrosh an opening to bury gorehowl in cairnes chest.... OH GOD, I want siege NOW to bloody kill that walking turd!
    I'll also make sure you also have everything correct, Everything was right up to the point where you say what Garrosh did to Cairne he shattered his weapon into pieces so my bet was the battle was anyone game at that point. Cairne had less injuries but a very reduced reach now that his weapon was shattered, but Garrosh had injuries but his weapon would give him a good reach.
    Last edited by Susanoo; 2013-01-30 at 03:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Susanoo View Post
    Are you serious, if your going to use a line from warcraft 3 make sure its not the same one where Archimonde admits Thrall hurt him.

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    I'll also make sure you also have everything correct, Everything was right up to the point where you say what Garrosh did to Cairne he shattered his weapon into pieces so my bet was the battle was anyone game at that point. Cairne had less injuries but a very reduced reach now that his weapon was shattered, but Garrosh had injuries but his weapon would give him a good reach.
    Just because Archimonde was surprised that Thrall could do damage to him doesn't mean it was something significant.

  5. #245
    Quote Originally Posted by Olianda View Post
    Warriors are like Shocktroopers. Imagine a massive, screaming, rage-fueled, warrior in heavy and magically reinforced armor charging straight at you.
    Yeah, but what's stopping a mage from putting on plate armor himself and learning how to swing a sword and becoming a battle mage? There's also pallies and dks. I guess they can't be as massed produced as fast as a warriors can, which is why there's still footman and knights and shit. Though really, unless they're mountain kings that can turn into stone and shit, warriors don't really have an advantage over other classes lorewise.
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    He is, when they write him that way. If they want him to solo Sargeras, he'll solo Sargeras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roggles View Post
    Yeah, but what's stopping a mage from putting on plate armor himself and learning how to swing a sword and becoming a battle mage? There's also pallies and dks. I guess they can't be as massed produced as fast as a warriors can, which is why there's still footman and knights and shit. Though really, unless they're mountain kings that can turn into stone and shit, warriors don't really have an advantage over other classes lorewise.
    Well npc wise there are battle mages, and with pallies and DKs it's kind of a case of "Don't think, feel." Pallies connect with the light that way, and DKs focus rage and malice through their runes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I'll correct you there. In the fight, it was showing Cairne was the experienced warrior. Infact Golden make it very clear Cairne was winning, and all Garrosh got was one small cut on cairnes chest, which is what instantly poisoned him and allowed Garrosh an opening to bury gorehowl in cairnes chest.... OH GOD, I want siege NOW to bloody kill that walking turd!
    And I correct you there: although Cairne was winning most of the duel, Garrosh managed to destroy his weapon and wound him with one, desperate yet powerfull, blow. I repeat - at that very moment, Cairne was unarmed AND minorly wounded. And this was also the end of the fight, since the poison started doing the work for Garrosh.

    If, during a weapon combat, one of combatants gets disarmed, I'd say the other one is pretty much winning. I hope you agree with me here.

    And by the way - Garrosh wouldn't let Cairne live, this was a duel to the death, and if there was ever a character that liked that concept, it would be mother friggin Garrosh.

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    Since we seem to argue about the Garrosh vs Cairne duel I could add my view on the whole..
    It was kinda an even match with a slight Cairne being the better but Garrosh is young and has a more effective weapon. I think garrosh would've ended victorious anyways if his weapon was not blessed by poison. Garrosh did break Cairnes weapon of choice and make a serious wound on him.

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    I think Varok would win. just because varriyan is inexperienced, and besides infinite stamina he doesnt have the experience needed.

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