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    HC Tsulong question

    Quick question on this fight.
    We managed to down it with 1 tank and me taking the 3rd breath as a dps, but on one attempt when I was attempting to taunt the boss it said "cannot attack the boss while invulnerable." We have a pally bop me beforehand to remove any RNG melee crits 1 shotting me. Only one time that I deathgripped after the bop it gave me this message (lots of attempts). Was it caused by anything I did? I was mashing my deathgrip button and nothing else. Anyway to avoid this or was it some kind of bug?

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    It's not lag, it's intended to stop cheesing tactics. You lose ALL threat during a HoP or Div. Shield or other suchmechanics ( Ice Blck). The only way to 'force' the attention of a mob is by taunting THEN using immunity. You were just lucky that most of the time your DG landed before HoP landed on you, or you would have noticed this mechanic earlier.

    Also, why not just go Blood Presence + IBF + AMS? Doesn't Blood Presence make you uncrittable, or is that just a passive baked into Blood Spec?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickwickman View Post
    It's not lag, it's intended to stop cheesing tactics. You lose ALL threat during a HoP or Div. Shield or other suchmechanics ( Ice Blck). The only way to 'force' the attention of a mob is by taunting THEN using immunity. You were just lucky that most of the time your DG landed before HoP landed on you, or you would have noticed this mechanic earlier.

    Also, why not just go Blood Presence + IBF + AMS? Doesn't Blood Presence make you uncrittable, or is that just a passive baked into Blood Spec?
    The crit immunity is only for blood, so the chance to crit is still there. however it might be easier to just rng the crit and assume for the worst with blood presence+ibf+ams+pain sup or other externals. Even if you're crit you should be able to survive with all those running, and i would think that would be easier than trying to game threat mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickwickman View Post
    It's not lag, it's intended to stop cheesing tactics. You lose ALL threat during a HoP or Div. Shield or other suchmechanics ( Ice Blck). The only way to 'force' the attention of a mob is by taunting THEN using immunity. You were just lucky that most of the time your DG landed before HoP landed on you, or you would have noticed this mechanic earlier.

    Also, why not just go Blood Presence + IBF + AMS? Doesn't Blood Presence make you uncrittable, or is that just a passive baked into Blood Spec?
    I'm pretty sure you can still taunt while under the effect of HoP/Bubble - it's just that death grip probably counts as an attack so you can't use it while under the effect of BoP (since BoP stops you from using attacks)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo View Post
    I'm pretty sure you can still taunt while under the effect of HoP/Bubble - it's just that death grip probably counts as an attack so you can't use it while under the effect of BoP (since BoP stops you from using attacks)
    like i said, it only happened once! in several (30?) attempts.
    taunting while boped still puts the 3 second fixate on you, just one time in maybe 30 it said i couldn't attack while invulnerable, and was wondering if anyone else this happened to and if they knew what caused it

    i always asked for bop -> saw bop on me -> taunted -> trying to prevent 1 shots from boss meleeing / criting me.
    just one time it said i couldn't because I was invulnerable

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