Planned Parenthood @ Factcheck.org

[Louisa Bannon]

In another thread I mentioned how I am a long-time supporter of Planned Parenthood.

Here's a link to how Factcheck.org sees them:
http://www.factcheck.org/2011/04/planned-parenthood/

We received several questions on this topic during the recent budget debate in Congress, after Arizona Sen. Jon Kyl claimed this month on the Senate floor that "well over 90 percent of what Planned Parenthood does" is provide abortion services. That figure was wildly incorrect. Planned Parenthood says only 3 percent of its total services in 2009 were abortions. The other 97 percent of services were for contraception, treatment and tests for sexually transmitted diseases, cancer screenings, and other women’s health services.

Why do I support them? Well, it's low or no cost health services that help keep the population down. I just happen to think that the last thing we need is a lot of unwanted kids being added to society.

[Tradewind]

That's just fascinating.

[wheresmywoft]

That's just fascinating.

Republican pulling numbers out of his ass? not surprising.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Kyl

[Lenonis]

Planned parenthood has really been demonized by the right. Which is a shame as it does a lot of good that isn't even remotely related to abortion or even birth control.

[Orbitus]

Planned parenthood has really been demonized by the right. Which is a shame as it does a lot of good that isn't even remotely related to abortion or even birth control.

Yep, they keep complaining that tax dollars goes to funding abortion which isn't even REMOTELY true. Considering there is a LAW the specifically states that planned parenthood cannot do that. It is called the Hyde amendment. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyde_Amendment And only 3% of Planned Parenthood's budget goes towards abortions and its mostly for consultations and referrals.

[Masark]

And only 3% of Planned Parenthood's budget goes towards abortions and its mostly for consultations and referrals.

Yes, but they're also against most of the other 97%, e.g. contraceptives and STD screening/treatment.

[mykro9]

Yes, but they're also against most of the other 97%, e.g. contraceptives and STD screening/treatment.

Why would they be against STD screening and treatment?

[Reeve]

Why would they be against STD screening and treatment?

Because they think that in an environment where kids are encouraged to screen and treat their STDs, they'll be encouraged to have lots of sex too, which for some reason is sinful and shameful in their minds.

[Julian Rayne]

Why would they be against STD screening and treatment?

Because STD screening and treatment allows filthy sluts to have immoral sex without the horrifying consequences they deserve.

Just to be clear, the above isn't my actual opinion.

[Darsithis]

Why would they be against STD screening and treatment?

What Reeve said. That if this stuff is available, it encourages kids to have sex. I'm sure it does, to a very small degree but I'd wager our society's demonizing of sex and sexuality to be a bigger reason why kids engage in it.

[Emageht Tsoluoy]

i thought planned parenthood was funded by the religious right or something weird...
probably remembering wrong, but don't the actually persuade against abortions because:jeebus?

[Masark]

i thought planned parenthood was funded by the religious right or something weird...
probably remembering wrong, but don't the actually persuade against abortions because:jeebus?

No. You seems to be confusing them with crisis pregnancy centres.

[Julian Rayne]

i thought planned parenthood was funded by the religious right or something weird...
probably remembering wrong, but don't the actually persuade against abortions because:jeebus?

I don't know if they actively persuade against abortions, but the work they do providing contraceptives prevents more abortions than anything the religious right gets up to.

What Reeve said. That if this stuff is available, it encourages kids to have sex. I'm sure it does, to a very small degree but I'd wager our society's demonizing of sex and sexuality to be a bigger reason why kids engage in it.

Teens engage in sex because that's what humans do. I agree that the demonization you speak of is extremely harmful, and leads to more unsafe sex, but I don't think it leads to more sex in general.

[Wildtree]

Why do I support them? Well, it's low or no cost health services that help keep the population down. I just happen to think that the last thing we need is a lot of unwanted kids being added to society.

Sounds like an idea with some allure to me actually..
That way mankind gets eventually rid of that breed of people, and when they're extinct the rest of the human race can start over without them and has a chance to continue for thousands of years to come, with a real chance of a reasonably enjoyable future.

That's about the one positive aspect I get from this nonsense.. Socially awkward people not wanting to breed, that's a good thing.

I am not pro-life movement. By far not.. But the anti-birth/children extreme is just as bad....
It's like I'd had to decide who's dumber the stupid or the idiot.

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What Reeve said. That if this stuff is available, it encourages kids to have sex. I'm sure it does, to a very small degree but I'd wager our society's demonizing of sex and sexuality to be a bigger reason why kids engage in it.

Prohibited fun always had an exaggerated allure....
Remember the cherries in the neighbors backyard.. They clearly taste better than the ones in your own yard..

[Orbitus]

Sounds like an idea with some allure to me actually..
That way mankind gets eventually rid of that breed of people, and when they're extinct the rest of the human race can start over without them and has a chance to continue for thousands of years to come, with a real chance of a reasonably enjoyable future.

That's about the one positive aspect I get from this nonsense.. Socially awkward people not wanting to breed, that's a good thing.

I am not pro-life movement. By far not.. But the anti-birth/children extreme is just as bad....
It's like I'd had to decide who's dumber the stupid or the idiot.

Which is why the religious right and conservatives hate it. They hate "hand outs" like this.

[Doctor Amadeus]

If a woman doesn't want to have a child she can discuss that with God.


I just think the OP side tracks the issue.

[GodlyBob]

Sounds like an idea with some allure to me actually..
That way mankind gets eventually rid of that breed of people, and when they're extinct the rest of the human race can start over without them and has a chance to continue for thousands of years to come, with a real chance of a reasonably enjoyable future.

That's about the one positive aspect I get from this nonsense.. Socially awkward people not wanting to breed, that's a good thing.

I am not pro-life movement. By far not.. But the anti-birth/children extreme is just as bad....
It's like I'd had to decide who's dumber the stupid or the idiot.

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Prohibited fun always had an exaggerated allure....
Remember the cherries in the neighbors backyard.. They clearly taste better than the ones in your own yard..

I'm...not entirely sure what is being said here. You want for people that have sex and not procreate to die off?

[Masark]

If a woman doesn't want to have a child she can discuss that with God.

I don't hear god stating any objections to abortion.

[Wildtree]

If a woman doesn't want to have a child she can discuss that with God.

No, she can discuss that with the man that would be the father, and with her doctor...

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I'm...not entirely sure what is being said here. You want for people that have sex and not procreate to die off?

No, I want people that want to keep the population down, to die out.
I think I've made that pretty clear when I said "anti-birth/children extreme

[GodlyBob]

No, I want people that want to keep the population down, to die out.
I think I've made that pretty clear when I said "anti-birth/children extreme

This is still kind of a strange concept for me. Are you proposing that the people who fear overpopulation should die off in order to solve overpopulation, or just that they should die because you disagree with them?