As a dutch guy i don't really care, a spoiled brat is going out and another spoiled brat is going in.
Elected tyranny with the people's right to depose said tyrant if they're doing an awful job and refuse to quit is actually something I'd personally endorse. With elected council, of course. That's pretty much what the US government has, and I agree with the premise; it would be great if it was more about serving the populace, and less about serving the country. It would be the best of both worlds, so to speak.
Royals aren't trained in politics as such, though. They're trained mostly at diplomacy and warfare. Yups; it's an ancient custom, but the main reason we've got kings is war. Public relations are really a king's thing, so princes must serve in the military, must be deployed in time of war at least once (usually more often). That's going to be interesting as the next in line for the Dutch throne is female. It would be refreshing if she would also serve in the military like her father did.
Anyway, so yeah: Public relations.
Ruling the country is something that is governed by politics, justice and police. Not kings.
I'm a socialist too, but I don't have a problem with our monarchy.
That's probably because we got them in a different way.
Most monarchies are "forced" on the nation whereas we "chose" to have a monarchy.
Besides Willem Alexander will make a great King, he is closer to the people.
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But even if all murderers smile, it must not be inferred that all who smile are murderers.
The world is gloomy enough already, and there is no need to employ bad logic to make it worse.
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These people dedecate their whole lifes to the crown and to their contry. And for the political role the queen has played over the years is verry overstated.
And I for one am happy with the royalty in the Netherlands, i'd rather have them represend the contry then like Berlousconi or Merkel.
This is the education our Crown princess has gone through. No real qualifications?
Victoria attended a state elementary school (Ålstensskolan) and Enskilda Gymnasiet in Stockholm, graduating in 1996. She next studied for a year (1996/97) at the Université Catholique de l'Ouest at Angers in France, and in the fall term of 1997 participated in a special program following the work of the Parliament of Sweden. During the years 1998 to 2000, Victoria resided in the United States, where she studied various subjects at Yale University, New Haven, Connecticut.
In May 1999 she was an intern at the Swedish Embassy in Washington, D.C. In 2000, she studied conflict resolution and international peacekeeping at the Swedish National Defence College (Försvarshögskolan). Victoria followed the Swedish presidency of the European Union and completed a study program at the Government Offices (Rosenbad) in 2001.
During spring semester 2002, Victoria completed a study program with the Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency (Sida), and in June and September was an intern at the United Nations in New York; in the fall she was an intern at the Swedish Trade Council's offices in Berlin and Paris. In 2003, Victoria's education continued with visits to Swedish businesses, a study and intern program in agriculture and forestry, as well as completion of the basic soldier training at SWEDINT (the Swedish Armed Forces International Centre).
In 2004, Victoria continued with visits to Swedish businesses, and that fall she continued with courses in political science, international relations and conflict resolution at the Swedish National Defence College. In 2005, she continued with private tutored studies in society-related subjects as well as some courses at the University of Stockholm.
In 2006, Victoria enrolled in the Ministry for Foreign Affairs' Diplomat Program, running from September 2006 to June 2007. The program is a training program for young future diplomats and gives an insight to the ministry's work, Swedish foreign and security policies and Sweden's relations with the rest of the world. The education entails lectures, seminars, group work and visits to authorities and institutions. In 2007, Victoria studied French privately and held an internship at the Permanent Representation of Sweden to the European Union. In June 2009, she graduated with a Bachelor of Arts degree from Uppsala University.
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You might find these useful, if you're seriously considering a move.
http://www.connectingindians.com/ind...nTaxCalculator (the website is aimed at Indian nationals coming to work in Germany, but the tax calculator is a good tool).
Expatica is a bloody useful website in general for anyone looking to relocate to another country.
I guess how much cheaper Germany actually is for you, depends on whereabouts your income falls in the tax tables, as their highest tax bracket is a much lower rate than in the Netherlands, and you need to earn a much higher wage in Germany before you hit the top tax bracket than in the Netherlands too.
For someone like me though, I'm actually financially better off in the Netherlands by quite a bit all told.
Edit to add... When you said neighbours to the east, I assumed Germany. Sorry if I've assumed incorrectly.
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This is how a monarchy works: It's out monarchy. Our king. We're not their people; they're our people. In return, they get to have a very wealthy life... But the people rules the monarchy, and the monarchy shouldn't just laze about.
Bernhard couldn't handle the job. He should never have been let into the kitchen.
I don't know an "overly amount" of Germany, i just know three people that live just over the border in Germany but work in The Netherlands... they all drive new cars which they couldn't afford here due to the absurd amount of taxes on it and they live in a very nice house they bought for a heck of a lot cheaper compared to a similar house here in this country.
The average wait time for a social renting home (under 650 euro's a month excluding water, gas en electricity) is depending on location, average of 7 to 25 years..... that's rediculous and it's only getting worse and worse as only the "select few" get a loan from the bank to buy a house so they all try to rent.
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High five Kerath, you get to stay .
And who has trouble buying a house now? They are cheap as hell.
Oh you didn't save? You should tell a German that in the Netherlands it was almost common to get a mortgage for 110% of the actual value of the house. They will laugh . I don't know how Sweden is but if it is the same as in the Netherlands now, it means you need to bring money yourself. If you bring in 15%+ of the value yourself and a fixed contract with your employer, the bank is happy to help you.
And when comparing houses, you might not want to compare houses in the center of a city in the Randstad with some remote place in Sweden. I am pretty sure that for €280.000 you wont be able to buy much in the center of Stockholm neiter.
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