Get a grip man! It's CHEESE!
It goes beyond social media too, during a due diligence session with (Insert large hedge firm here), they spent considerable time trying to break through my network.
I didn't mind though, it was all a good laugh and in jest, but for some people it does matter so it is important that the thin line is maintained.
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Overall though, the point of this discussion was the find out if people think it is okay for companies to investigate you on Social Media Sites. So, for the sake of making the process easier, do you think it is okay for them to look at the public parts of your profile, and base their opinions on that?
It is in the best interests of the company to evaluate all information concerning an applicant or employee. With that said i don't feel they are in any way entitled to information I haven't given them access to. If I show up and do my job to your expectations then that I go out and drink every night is none of your damn business. Now if I am going out and getting shitfaced in company logo clothes now it is your concern.
How you evaluate an employee should be based ont he quality of their work, and the image the present to the public. If someone is a furrie and goes to furballs every weekend, that doesn't matter. If they blast the company in the local newspaper than fire his ass.
In short it's a sleazy business practice and an invasion of privacy...if not legally an invasion it still is morally.
Get a grip man! It's CHEESE!
I really do wish I didn't feel like I have to do it, but recurring issues have meant that without it, people just take the piss and the wrong people get in at the wrong place. I'm not going to claim we'll reassess our policies based on this thread, but we're always looking at better ways to operate the company, for all factors (Employes, Employers, Profit etc...). Perhaps the issue lies elsewhere in our recruitment process, that could mean we avoid this.
even so, your company isnt the problem in my eyes. you are currently a party to it really, but not the root imo
The point that I was originally trying to make is this:
Let's say I rant politically in favor of Republicans. I believe in low taxation for businesses and that everyone in America should live here to work here and that welfare is an evil social program designed to destroy Middle Class America.
Now, say I am interviewing with a company whose interviewers/managers are predominantly Democrats who believe in helping out their fellow man and who feel that their higher taxes go toward the greater good. Right off the bat, I am on the bottom of the ladder looking up instead of being even with everyone else that interviews for the job. I might even get a phone call from the HR dept saying that they already filled the position, but really, they've judged who I am on a political rant that I had on a social media website that was posted *only* to family and friends and have been removed from the pool for that job. How is that fair? Why on earth is that legal and why are people ok with that? In the example, I'm not advocating using fertilizer bombs on a social media website but my political opinion will be used against me by a company that was able to submit a request for information from said social media outlet. Last I checked, this is something that cannot be used in an interview, so why is that information legally able to be obtained via social media?
That all being said, I personally wouldn't have a problem with it. I can just see where there would be privacy issues and I can see where possible discrimination could arise. That's it. And really, if a company sees something on my FB page that they don't like, odds are that I wouldn't have liked working for that company in the first place. It would just suck if I lost out on, say, a $125k per year db admin job because the interviewer didn't like that I think that people should earn a living instead of sitting on their asses for it.
**Disclaimer: I am neither Republican nor Democrat, and I certainly wouldn't blow up anything. Cept maybe my toilet...after a few pints of Guinness.
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Good things come from discussions, and I'm glad in the end, a good conversation has been had here.
Nor whatever social-bullshit internet site/app.
And I got jobs without this. I was successful at interviews without this. Including some for communication-based jobs where I had to send emails constantly and be aware of everything. I know how the shit works and I'm able to create an account on derpbook in 2 minutes if you need it right now. Except I did not forgot the first rule of the internet: NOTHING PERSONNAL SHALL BE PUT ON IT. Yeah even a pic. And I'll use my second name too, which is, by the way, as specific as "John Smith" if you get the idea (I consider this as luck).
Have a nice day mister employer, for you'll not be able to know who I fuck/drink/hang out with, and worse, won't be able to CATCH ME ON THE INTERWEBZ DOING THESE THINGS ON AN INSTAGRAM PIC WITH MY COLLEAGUES LOLOLOL.
Feel bad about it? Then maybe you should review your moral standards. If you can't give any credit in people for what they are doing for your business and have to rely on what they show about themselves on the net (as if they couldn't be completely different persons in private) I think your business will collapse because you're not recruiting a team, but buying servants.
Just my 2 cents.
This has not been sent from an Iphone.
One of the smartest ways of telling people who QQ about "special stuff" to STFU.When I go to a carnival and drop 5 bucks on a -game- I don't bitch because I didn't win the biggest stuffed bear.
Roahn the warlock, 13/08/2012
If you put it on the internet, it will get out one way or another if someone wants it. Everyone knows this and as such I see no issue here.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.
-Medical and/or Rehab History
These are all things you legally cannot question a candidate about or base a termination of an employee upon without getting yourself into a mess with HR and/or facing a potential lawsuit for unfair hiring practices. Whether such above information was made public in an individual's "About" section in his/her Facebook profile is irrelevant. The aforementioned items are legally hands-off and I would most certainly hope that Facebook does NOT include that in whatever they submit to your company. Unfortunately, given that the general public isn't exactly privy to how such requested information is gathered or the actual extent of said information that is provided by Facebook per request, one simply can't just take you at your word as to what you're basing your decisions upon.
That being said, it doesn't change the fact that people need to be mindful what the hell they put online for others to see. If you're stupid enough to post pictures of yourself at the 7th inning stretch after phoning in sick a few hours earlier you deserve to be fired. If you're stupid enough to put photos of marijuana nuggets all over your page, you deserve NOT to be hired.
And let's say your company, XYZ Global, is in financial trouble, and may be bought out by ZYX International. And you go out drinking that friday/saturday, like normal. And the business press on Monday is all "SENIOR XYZ STAFFER PARTIES THE WEEKEND AWAY WHILE HIS COMPANY COLLAPSES".
Your boss will not be happy with you.
The fact is, a large part of how people are defined is their employment. If someone tells you "I"m a dentist", or "I'm a VP of Marketing", or "Yeah, I'm not working right now, because the labor market's pretty rough, I've got a few feelers out that I'm hoping to hear back on, things will turn around soon", you're making a judgement about that person. The corollary to this is that YOU also define your EMPLOYER. If you behave badly, it reflects badly on them, because they're the kind of people who'd employ someone like you. For most pretty standard stuff, it won't be an issue, but this is why there's always a big uproar when people find out their kid's teacher used to be a stripper or porn star (or still is, on the side). It has nothing to do with their current performance. It still absolutely matters, and that teacher likely got fired. I would agree that, especially in that particular example, it's totally freaking irrelevant and unfair and pointless, but it's still the way the world works.
It's a "Perception is Reality" world and a company's collective image becomes associated, for better or worse, with the images of each individual employee. If your escapades are serious enough to make you a PR and/or legal liability, you're going to get the ax.
OP, if what you say is true, what you are doing is a breaching of privacy if you check areas of profiles that are restricted. Breaching of privacy is illegal in most countries, and as such if the people would know that you did this they could sue you and win. In a perfect world. In the real world you'd win because more likely you are a big company and as such have more money, enough to put the law aside even when it's against you.