1. #1

    Sound Advice On This Small But Irritating Problem

    Hi all,

    I am really hoping someone can give me some sound advice on this small but irritating problem. I played WoW solid for roughly 6 years right up to Cataclysm. I bought Cataclysm but stop playing shortly after. I have always played WoW at Max settings. This was my set-up.

    Acer V243HBD 24" TFT Monitor1920x1080 40000:1 300cd/m2 2ms 16:9 VGA/DVI Black
    Antec Sonata III Piano Black Quiet Mid Tower Case - With 500W EarthWatts PSU

    ASUS P5N-D nForce 750i SLI Socket 775 8 channel audio ATX Motherboard
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Stepping (2.4GHz 1066MHz) Socket 775 L2 8MB Cache
    Arctic Cooling AC-FRZ-7P Freezer 7 Pro Socket 775 Processor Cooler
    Crucial 4GB (2X2GB) DDR2 800MHz/PC2-6400 Ballistix Memory CL4 2.0V
    EVGA 8800GT Superclocked 512MB GDDR3 DVI HDCP HDTV out PCI-E Graphics Card
    Western Digital WD3200AAKS 320GB SATAII 7200rpm 16MB Cache
    Western Digital WD5000AAKS 500GB SATAII 7200RPM 16MB Cache

    Microsoft Windows x64-bit 7 Home Premium Complete package.

    I have now decided along with a couple of mates that we are going to come back to WoW in the near future (No comments about its not worth coming back etc...etc..).

    Sadly about 7 months ago my graphics card (in above list) died...I had to replace it with something and as I was short on cash at the time and I bought a:-

    Asus GeForce GT 610 Nvidia Graphics Card (1GB DDR3, PCI Express 2.0, Low Profile, HDMI, DVI-I, VGA, DirectX 11.0, OpenGL 4.2
    (A cheap £30 job from Amazon)

    I have just booted up the starter edition to play until I'm ready to come back and I now can no longer run it on max settings....I put it on max settings and when WoW started up and it runs like a sack of crap. So I have a few questions to put out to you guys in the hope you can point me in the right direction.

    1. Has WoW changed that much graphically?
    2. Is it that crappy graphics card that's letting me down?
    3. To remedy the situation...??
    3a. A new rig?
    3b. Or just maybe a few choice parts to add/replace for example. (Found on Amazon)

    Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti DirectCU II OC Graphics Card (2GB, GDDR5, PCI Express 3.0, HDMI, DVI-I, DVI-D. and a
    Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SATA Solid State Drive.

    Sorry for the essay guys and girls just wanted to make things clear.

    Many thanks

    AudereEstFacere (Simon)

  2. #2
    1. yes
    2. yes
    3a. if you have the funds, you current CPU will limit your performance in 25man raiding.
    3b. getting a new GPU like the 660Ti will help you get nice performance in outdoor zones and in 10man raiding to a certain degree.
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  3. #3
    The GT 610 is a lot worse than your 8800GT

    What would your budget for any upgrades be?
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  4. #4
    I know the 610 is worse than my 8800GT but when the 8800GT broke I was skint so I just went for the cheapest thing I could get at the time however I hadn't made the decision to come back to WoW at that point so any GPU was ok for me at that point.

    Would my CPU really hinder me that much in 25man raiding? I raided 25man in Lich King on full settings and the game played sweetly (I didn't realize WoW had moved on that much graphically)

    I don't really have a budget of sorts its a case of if I need a new rig I'll attempt to get 1...if I can get away with replacing/adding parts I will do that instead.

    Like I said would:-

    Asus Nvidia GeForce GTX 660 Ti DirectCU II OC Graphics Card (2GB, GDDR5, PCI Express 3.0, HDMI, DVI-I, DVI-D. and a
    Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5 inch SATA Solid State Drive.

    give me back my max setting or do I need to push further into a new rig to get max settings (Am I looking at a whole rig replacement)

    Thanks for taking the time to reply guys I really aprecciate it. Just want to get things clear in my head

  5. #5
    To be raiding on max settings at 1080p resolution you are looking at a more or less complete overhaul of the system. If you are happy with lower settings then getting a GTX 660ti or HD 7870XT would likely be enough.
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  6. #6
    I would suggest you just order the GPU and SSD now and try it out, if you aren't happy with the performance then you can upgrade the rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    1. yes
    2. yes
    3a. if you have the funds, you current CPU will limit your performance in 25man raiding.
    3b. getting a new GPU like the 660Ti will help you get nice performance in outdoor zones and in 10man raiding to a certain degree.
    Took the words right out of my mouth.

    To expand on point 3a, I can recommend even something like a core i3-2100 if cash is a real concern. It's an older chip, but it's what I'd recommend as a starter point if you're short on cash. You'll need to also replace your motherboard in this case, but it shouldn't cost more than £150 for both the motherboard and CPU. If you've got a few hundred to sink into it, getting one of the new Haswell chips and a motherboard to go with it would help, and the total for both is less than £250 if you go for the minimum (i.e. MSI Z87M-G43 board with an i5-4430) and the performance will be pretty fantastic. You'd honestly be looking at a 3-4x FPS increase in the world (if FPS is around 15 right now), or around 40-50 FPS in raiding (assuming you upgrade the GPU as well - you can still expect a 1.5-2x improvement by replacing the CPU and board). In fact, this lowest level Haswell chip provides similar gaming performance to an i5-2500K, which was the go-to chip in 2011 and part of 2012.

    You'll need to replace the RAM with DDR3 but 2x2GB is only around £30 (I'd personally recommend 8GB which is around £50, but it's your choice).

    A GPU upgrade would help, but a CPU upgrade on top would be just as beneficial. Either way, updating the core components as a whole would be very beneficial.
    Last edited by Chronalis; 2013-06-09 at 03:27 PM.
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