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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Davendwarf View Post
    And if you read the article, his brother says he doesn't think there was any racial motivation.
    Family members coming to the defense of someone who did something wrong has never happened before. Jeffery Dahmer, Ted Kaczynski, and Timothy McVeigh all had family members rush to the media claiming they were normal people incapable of ding those things even when the evidence was clearly against them. I am not saying it was racially motivated but you cannot really accept family accounts right off the bat. I mean George Zimmerman is said to be not racist, yet you can clearly hear him talking about "them" always getting away with with crap on 911 tapes when he used to call them regularly about black people in his neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dundebuns View Post
    You know what would fix this?

    More Guns.
    Duh. Kinda like how the NRA want more guards, police , and guns in schools so another Sandy Hook doesn't happen, even though Sandy Hook had armed security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beefhamer View Post
    even though Sandy Hook had armed security.
    I was not aware of this. I was aware Columbine did, however.
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    Both of those links don't provide any evidence. They make unsubstantiated statements

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by Dundebuns View Post
    You know what would fix this?

    More Guns.
    Exactly, if all 4 of the them open carried and saw a lunatic charging at them with a gun drawn, they could've all killed him right there to prevent further disasters.

    US should take it a step further just by mass producing weapon and give everyone in this world a gun. I see world peace in my crystal ball when everyone has a gun.
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    well this is unfortunate

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  5. #285
    He noticed them early, he could have hid himself, observe their actions and strike if they would have been a threat.

    Standing near car with in his eyes 4 potential threats is not the smartest move, one guy could have just shot him through the window... I mean, he was not able to tell the difference between a car driving at him or away, how could he see a person drawing a weapon?

    This guy is just a murderer!

    @ gun control
    Sure, the majority of gun owners are peaceful & do not do shit like this. But some wackos do.
    Most criminals try to avoid killing & shootouts, they use their weapons as a threat to achieve their primary objective.

    UK, France, United States, Russia & China have nuclear bombs & you still feel safe because you know they will not nuke randomly like crazy. Some wacko states like Pakistan & North Korea have nuclear weapons, too! But they are just threatening to not get overthrown. So there is a nuclear weapon regulation, you cannot get a nuclear weapon so easily, that is why only a few countries have them. Iran insists on the right to have nuclear technology (to achieve a good power infrastructure, but one or two bombs to threat a little bit would not be so bad). So why not spread the nuclear technology all over the world and maybe sell nuclear bombs, too? I mean, who can deny you the right to have nuclear bombs? A bomb is not killing people, in the end people are the killers, so there is nothing wrong with the bombs! Most countries still would not be a threat but you just have to wait for some wacko to actually use them which is much more possible if everyone has those bombs.

    So, nuclear bomb regulation is totally fine ("LOL, DON'T LET WACKO STATES GET THE DREADFUL BOMB") but gun regulation is libertarian bullshit ("LOL, EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO HAVE A WEAPON").

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    They'll find something to blame other than guns again, probably computer games :P

  7. #287
    I guess this is one of those times when you shouldn't stop the car to say you're sorry.

  8. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Noobadin View Post
    Poverty. Most of the gun crimes are happening in major urban areas that are poor.
    You don't think liberals are trying to do anything about poverty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    I was not aware of this. I was aware Columbine did, however.
    I recently discovered that the only school shooting to have happened in my country was at the university i am now attending. Only 3 died. 2 others wounded.

    I haven't seen any security around.

  10. #290
    trying to hide behind the shooter being a vet is sick.. him being a vet should make him MORE cool headed in a situation.

  11. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    I recently discovered that the only school shooting to have happened in my country was at the university i am now attending. Only 3 died. 2 others wounded.

    I haven't seen any security around.
    Sounds like you have nice, trustworthy and decent people where you're from. That's a good thing.

  12. #292
    Just to add on to the article.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t3#...ddress-gps.wsb

    It says the people driving in the car were taken to the wrong address when they were using the GPS. The man noticed they were outside went inside and came out with a gun. As the victim tried to drive away he was shot in the head.

    I'm not sure if this is the same article in the earlier one it described more people in car.

  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Biske View Post
    http://nbclatino.com/2013/01/29/geor...ay-police-say/

    Short version: Paranoia+guns= disaster. What is it with people justifying shooting others just for "being on their property" when they're not even breaking in or anything (even accidentally like in this case)? How is that "defending yourself"?
    I'm sure after 15 pages it's been said, but I find it utterly hilarious that they NEED to mention the victim was latino in the headline. Yup, that's it, he was shot because he was latino. To the non-white crowd, you know damn well if it was a minority who shot a white guy they would make no mention the guy was white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glnger View Post
    trying to hide behind the shooter being a vet is sick.. him being a vet should make him MORE cool headed in a situation.
    You must not know what PTSD, let alone simply being in/seeing the shit that happens in wars will do to people.

  14. #294
    PTSD is not an excuse for murder, especially if he's never been diagnosed or sought help for it, The article didn't mention one way or the other.

    why are you trying so hard to excuse his actions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seegtease View Post
    Sounds like you have nice, trustworthy and decent people where you're from. That's a good thing.
    I suspect the constant alcohol infused haze keeps people happy.

  16. #296
    stuff like this gets me pretty upset. i hope that the old man gets a sufficient punishment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glnger View Post
    PTSD is not an excuse for murder, especially if he's never been diagnosed or sought help for it, The article didn't mention one way or the other.

    why are you trying so hard to excuse his actions?
    Id say PTSD was an excuse if he had never been diagnosed and he was at the supermarket and someone scares him from behind and proceeds to snap the neck... If the person was Rambo

  18. #298
    "rolled down the window to say he was sorry and he was not doing anything wrong. Then the guy shot him in his head."

    Just leave the property and dont be a dumb ass, you would have one less hole in your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chadwix View Post
    "rolled down the window to say he was sorry and he was not doing anything wrong. Then the guy shot him in his head."

    Just leave the property and dont be a dumb ass, you would have one less hole in your head.
    yes, because you are a dumbass if you try to explain a mistake

  20. #300
    My brother was backing out fast because he was scared and he rolled down the window to say he was sorry and he was not doing anything wrong. Then the guy shot him in his head.
    69 year old people with a gun. Very bad laws. Evern worst laws whe they can maybe "pull" this off:

    who thought his home was being robbed, his lawyer says.
    Im sure many thiefs can rob a house just from the driveway with not entering the house at all. How about this: your property is defined by a closed space with only visible entrances. So if you have a driveway you need to have an entrance in front of it, fence arround the property. Then if someone enters your "secured" property you might consider that they are "bad" persons.

    Seems an issue in US is "well how do I know if I am on your property if you don't guard it?!"

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