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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Sivick View Post
    this is so stupid. this man is a threat to society and should never have been allowed to buy a gun. throw him away for the rest of his life.
    Why shouldn't he be allowed to? He is a veteran and he served his country, which means he has more of a right than anyone.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Hastings95 View Post
    Hmm? Oh, I like to use right when I'm saying I understand what the person's saying, (But, not necessarily agreeing with them) but, internet being internet I couldn't proper associate the correct facial expressions and intonations when using right in that sense, so I'll go edit it.
    Oh, ok, I see what you mean. I thought you were agreeing with his paranoia that its a threat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shocktroop View Post
    Why shouldn't he be allowed to?
    This whole thread is why.

    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    semaphore do the world a favor and pull into this guy's drive way and get ventilated.
    I see you're still mad that anti-marriage equality homophobes are no longer the majority.

  3. #83
    Can we just have a fucking sub-forum for gun discussion? This is just getting annoying.

  4. #84
    Yeah...that happened. But it doesn't mean the home owner had the right and won't be prosecuted...guns kill people daily, and guess what, even sometimes "accidentally".

    And like stated before, where are all the stories of responsible gun owners?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shocktroop View Post
    Why shouldn't he be allowed to? He is a veteran and he served his country, which means he has more of a right than anyone.
    You serious? I respect the vets and all but no, they don't get more rights than everyone.

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  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Oh, ok, I see what you mean. I thought you were agreeing with his paranoia that its a threat.


    This whole thread is why.


    I see you're still mad that anti-marriage equality homophobes are no longer the majority.
    In fairness gays shouldn't allowed to marry, as it's a religious institution that is pretty clear what it does and doesn't allow. But that's a different topic all together.

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    I don't think I know what the acronym "tsg" is. It's not RBG's or Arena, random battlegrounds, or any form of dungeon or raid that I can think of. What does it mean?

  8. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    semaphore do the world a favor and pull into this guy's drive way and get ventilated.
    I say we take away his gun first

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Commissarr View Post
    In fairness gays shouldn't allowed to marry, as it's a religious institution that is pretty clear what it does and doesn't allow. But that's a different topic all together.
    Marriage is not a religious concept, and the benefits bestowed are secular, given by the government not the church, and also, when you say "in fairness" to promoting inequality, that just doesn't make sense.

    Marriage should be open to any couples, regardless of gender, for equality and fairness' sake.
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shocktroop View Post
    Why shouldn't he be allowed to? He is a veteran and he served his country, which means he has more of a right than anyone.
    Yes, the fact that he just committed 2nd degree murder for absolutely no reason proves he should have been allowed to have a gun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    There is no news story about how the majority of gun owners are responsible, because it's not lurid and interesting.

    These events are the exception.
    Yes, every accident is an exception, but that doesn't mean steps can't be taken to avoid such accidents.
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    Makes you wonder if the UPS guy left his packages at the foot of the driveway.


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    Version 1: "Rolled down his window to say sorry"

    Version 2: "He perceived the car going towards his house, towards him."



    Basically, once the lawyers/spin doctors are called in, we may never know what actually happened. It's as entirely likely that Sailors was a pissed old drunk dude who shot an innocent kid as it is that the kid rolled down his window to flip the bird which looked like pointing a weapon to the Vietnam vet.

    Like licking a Tootsie Pop, the world may never know.

  14. #94
    Sheesh, at least point your gun and threaten them first if you're that convinced the potential intruder might be armed.

  15. #95
    If it wasn't accidentally and he was actually trying to rob/murder/something and the old man ended dead, thread would be like "Georgia man killed by guy who faked having accidentally pulled into his driveway" and we would be discussing at how naive was the old man as he simply believed the driver was just mistaken, how society sucks because of that, WoW is dying, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEATHETERNAL View Post
    In that situation, the chances of the guy's purpose in rolling down his window being taking a shot at the homeowner as he drives away are more than enough to justify firing. I see no issue here. Do not go onto someone else’s property at night and do anything that might be in any way be construed as a threatening or potentially aggressive action otherwise shooting you is entirely justified.
    its quotes like this that validate why people hate guns and more to the point gun owners. you are doing your side no justice with this statement. there is no indication at this time the kids where in any way aggressive and after saying: "sorry wrong house" and backing away slowly shows this. again its trigger happy dip-shits that you come off as being that make gun owners look like psychos.
    Last edited by Sky High; 2013-01-30 at 04:29 AM.

  17. #97
    Quote Originally Posted by Milkwolfgang View Post
    If it wasn't accidentally and he was actually trying to rob/murder/something and the old man ended dead, thread would be like "Georgia man killed by guy who faked having accidentally pulled into his driveway" and we would be discussing at how naive was the old man as he simply believed the driver was just mistaken, how society sucks because of that, WoW is dying, etc.
    Ifs and buts and hypotheticals dont count. The guy pulled into the wrong driveway, realised it and started to back out. Pulling into a driveway is not a threatening act, especially if you end up backing out / turining around soon after. Rolling down your windows is not a threatening act to which the castle doctrine could apply. The Vet was just plain nutty and deserves time in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkwolfgang View Post
    If it wasn't accidentally and he was actually trying to rob/murder/something and the old man ended dead, thread would be like "Georgia man killed by guy who faked having accidentally pulled into his driveway" and we would be discussing at how naive was the old man as he simply believed the driver was just mistaken, how society sucks because of that, WoW is dying, etc.
    too bad this isn't what happened, oh how pointless hypotheticals can be.

  19. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by Commissarr View Post
    In fairness gays shouldn't allowed to marry, as it's a religious institution that is pretty clear what it does and doesn't allow. But that's a different topic all together.
    Lol religious institution? That's a good fucking lie.

  20. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by DEATHETERNAL View Post
    In that situation, the chances of the guy's purpose in rolling down his window being taking a shot at the homeowner as he drives away are more than enough to justify firing. I see no issue here. Do not go onto someone else’s property at night and do anything that might be in any way be construed as a threatening or potentially aggressive action otherwise shooting you is entirely justified.
    A kindergarten level of understanding of statistics would indicate that no rolling down the window is not enough to justify firing. If you see no issue you are precisely the type of person who should not be allowed anywhere near anything sharper than a butter knife or more explosive than a damp match.

    Rolling down your window while backing out in and of itself it not a threatening act outside of paranoid idiot land.\

    Quote Originally Posted by Milkwolfgang View Post
    If it wasn't accidentally and he was actually trying to rob/murder/something and the old man ended dead, thread would be like "Georgia man killed by guy who faked having accidentally pulled into his driveway" and we would be discussing at how naive was the old man as he simply believed the driver was just mistaken, how society sucks because of that, WoW is dying, etc.
    Except he wasn't, and statistics and common sense both indicate that the outlandishly more likely explanation for that person being in his driveway and then almost immediately reversing direction would not be that he was there to murder/rob you but that he pulled into the wrong house. We're talking on the level that this guy was more likely to get hit by lightning than that car was there to do harm to him kind of odds.
    Last edited by shimerra; 2013-01-30 at 04:34 AM.
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