Well that was an interesting read. I find it unfortunate that such demented people are able to attain a position of power. I'd be hard pressed to find a Republican or ultra-conservative politician in power here in the states that's that overboard. Hopefully the education and common sense of Croatian citizens and students will at least get beyond this ridiculous sex ed issue. As for the polarization, all I can say is good luck.
"If I didn't have bad luck I'd have no luck at all."
this, only Scandinavians, Germans, Lithuanians and the Dutch are taller than Croats. And since you're Swedish, according to that, really tall people shouldn't be weird to you. :P
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Here's another video. In the first 20 seconds or so, the other woman tries to jump in and rescue Reisman from answering. The students rebel and she ends up answering as you can see. What I found rather funny is that the woman in pink at 2:07 sitting right of the dean behind him is my Croatian (as in language) teacher. Today, instead of giving a lecture, she chose to babble on how things about her were taken out of context and how that dean is an idiot (not that she used that word, but that's what she thought) for like half an hour.
Inviting Reisman was the mistake of the century and many people agree. My dad is going rampant because of her. He truly hates her guts.
I think we have still many holes to patch before we become a truly honorable country. I mean, our gay rights are basically non existent. I had many fights over gay rights and gay people in general with a few very close friends actually. They think being gay is a sin, and all gay people are horrible abominations. Yeah, that's the current social thinking in Croatia. Especially in Dalmatia.
My only hope is that our new generation grows up more liberal, democratic and world open. Everyone who had anything to do with Yugoslavia should simply hide under some rock... they are almost all corrupt and extremely bad politicians. All they can and do is to steal the little money we have. My dad could talk about it all day long.
Oh dear, I still love my home country.
Edit: I would have taken her apart during that interview. She's so much full of bullshit, I actually have no words for it.
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Sadly, progress cannot be made without political-polarization, due to progress requiring people change their beliefs, thankfully, the majority of those who hold conservative beliefs (Social conservative) are older, and will be phased out sooner or later due to death, and other things. (To those who would rip me for saying that, I'm not saying it's good they die, just merely stating an observation that well, that's one of the main ways their beliefs would be phased out)
Glad to see Croatia starting to get up and running, wish only good luck for the future!
"Then we have found, as it seems, that the many beliefs of the many about what's fair and about the other things roll around somewhere between not-being and being purely and simply." - Plato: Republic
Jees, that is one hell of a dean. What a straight up guy.
Regarding the hag...
I would buy the dean a beer and her 20. Hopefully during some stroke of drunk genius haze she will build a time machine and end up in the past where she belong.
Putins agresssions brings back the cold war.
The lady sounds like a nut, but your country is wrongly represented, if you got 84% Catholics, and 88% of government are atheists (Atheists? - I am not sure is that word capitalized?, no belittling is intended).
Given what you said before, about how your country has a tenancy to swing back and forth, and given that your government doesn't represent your citizens, I'd expect a big swing next election.
I wouldn't use words such as tolerant and intolerant. Intolerant seems like a negative word, and it can be twisted to tolerant-toward-sodomy to mean that tolerant is a negative word. Better words would be progressive vs conservative.
From what I can tell, "truth" is irrelevant to people. People believe what they want to believe, or what they feel is more beneficial to them. Some people love change so they want to turn world upside down at every chance they get. Other people hate change, and will not stray from the line no matter any evidence. It has more to do with feelings than truth.
Most people don't want gay kids. One party claims to promote equality, the other party says they can prevent people's kids from being gay - it's an easy choice for most.
I wouldn't know what the other part of the class think, but I'm pretty sure they aren't staunch homophobes. There's this problem in Croatia where people seem to think everyone around them is a homophobe which makes them think that they have to pretend they're homophobic too to avoid being condemned by the rest. Either way, the younger generations are a lot more liberal. I'm really glad about that.
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So yeah, these are just people that like to call themselves Catholics because they believe there's some sort of Catholic culture they're bound to follow and pass on. In reality, most of them are deists or simply people who believe in a personal God that has little to do with the Church.
Wikiy, update us on who wins after your next election.
OK I finally watched the video. Good god, I hope this isn't the impression people overseas get of Americans.
Go and tell my baby sister
Not to do what I have done
Go and spurn that house down in New Orleans
They call the Rising Sun
Younger people are way more open to gay people and gay rights. Obviously, if you are already in the ethics group you will not find many people (if any) who are actually against gay people and their rights. It isn't the right place to look if you want to make a point about gay rights in general.Half of my class attends ethics classes and half attends religion. I'm obviously in the ethics part and we often talk about homosexuality there. They all pretty much accept homosexuality as natural and they think that it's stupid to restrict rights for people just because they might think it's disgusting to them. Most of them also support gay adoption, and those that don't only don't support it because they believe the discrimination that those kids would get because of having same sex parents would be excessive.
Really, Wikiy, I can only speak out of experience. Maybe I was just unlucky to end up in a homophobic circle of friends, but almost everyone I know in Zadar frequently says "fuck gay people, I would beat them up if they cross my way". Especially girls tend to describe being gay as disgusting and unnatural. That's quite ironic, however, because one of the most popular people in Zadar is a gay fashionista who openly walks around like a female slut.... always accompanied by his very own security. We call him "Macak" - which means kitty.I wouldn't know what the other part of the class think, but I'm pretty sure they aren't staunch homophobes. There's this problem in Croatia where people seem to think everyone around them is a homophobe which makes them think that they have to pretend they're homophobic too to avoid being condemned by the rest. Either way, the younger generations are a lot more liberal. I'm really glad about that.
It's the guy on the right side. Sometimes he wears full red latex, hot-pants and straps.
But it shows that we are on the right way. Even if some people think it's wrong, we need more people like him to raise awareness.
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Edit: We have our own Fashion Kitten in Zagreb - Marko Grubnić.
Edit2: Regarding what I said about not appreciating what people like the Fashion Kittens are doing.... well, I'm just at a loss as to how I'm supposed to appreciate something like this. He appears at 1:00. It's not gay people who should appreciate what he does, it's people whose gender identity doesn't fully match their biological sex (who are, again, people against whom I have nothing).
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