It's only game. Why you heff to be med? - Ilya Bryzgalov
No but seriously, I'm not buying it. If said Rogue didn't figure this out after one pull he's not fit to raid in my eyes. Mistakes happen and all, and yesterday I blundered horribly after my pet macro broke and my pet was just chilling next to me for a minute on heroic Protectors. But there is a massive difference between spamming Sinister Strike and Revealing Strike.
Don't get me wrong, I understand he's doing things wrong, but why is everyone saying he's the issue?
Their elemental shaman is doing less damage than the tank and almost 25k less dps than one of their healers. (who is still doing good healing)
On top of that, their shadow priest is doing less damage than the rogue in question.
Yes, his rotation is terribad. But he's not the problem in that group.
He made threads asking for help for their top DPS.
He did not for their elemental shaman, who is the lowest by far.
Something is off there. I'm starting to think the OP is the elemental shaman doing a bad job and trying to get his guildies to pull the slack.
On top of that, this is 10N, the other DPS are doing normal DPS for that. Yes, as was stated, there's serious flaws with the rogue's rotation, but his dps is still reasonable for 10 man normal MgV.
This fight IS kinda hard compared to other fights before it. It's a pretty rough DPS and healing check if you only have gear from the bosses before this one.
Your rogue, however, is awful. The RvS instead of SS (which you said will be fixed), the low SnD uptime (which is supposed to be pretty close to 100%), etc. Come on, rogue is one of the easiest DPS specs in PvE.
The rogue, however, is doing everything wrong. It looks to me like he's just spamming RvS and Eviscerate. He should prioritize Slice and Dice, then Eviscerate. He SHOULD use Rupture, but he has bigger problems to fix tbh (adding rupture only adds a tiny bit of DPS).
He seems to have taken Subterfuge. However, I notice he only has one cast of Ambush in his logs. He should make sure to throw in as many Ambushes as he can, and make sure to use Vanish on cd (at which point he should spam Ambush again.
But the biggest change he should probably be making is his SnD uptime. This is his BIGGEST priority. He also doesn't seem to be using any t4 talents, so make sure he takes Preparation and uses it on cd to reset his Vanish (giving him more Ambushes). He should also probably take Anticipation for his t6 talent. His glyphs also seem to be weird, make sure he's taking Glyph of Poisons (minor). He also seems to have quite a low uptime on Adrenaline Rush.
Just from looking at his logs and armory, that's pretty much all I can tell you. However, everything I said could be found out just by looking at any rogue guide (e.g. Icy Veins). I advise you to tell him to look up how to play his class.
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given the subtleties of using Revealing strike, i dont know why anyone would use it in a macro other then an Alt Function Macro (ie hit alt + button to use RvS instead of SS).
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I went into a fresh MV with the rogue and we killed the first four bosses. The rogue was the #1 dps over the four kills, with Sinister Strike as his #1 damage-dealing abiilty. He also had a much higher SnD uptime and even tried the Vanish-Ambush-Ambush trick a few times to see how it felt.
Thanks you all for your help in the matter, you made a big difference.
Do you know if he uses an addon like NeedToKnow?
An addon that tracks buffs and debuffs is extremely important as a Rogue. He could have prevented that Revealing Strike problem with it as well as accurately track when he should refresh Slice and Dice.
Addendum: last night, Elegon hit the floor. Rogue did over 100k dps, including a higher SnD uptime, more uses of both Rupture and Evicerate, and about 150 Sinister Strikes.
Thanks you all for your help, there are at least 10 people who greatly appreciate it. I hope you all enjoy getting Prep as baseline in 5.2
People can be whoever they choose to be on the internet - It is strange that so many people choose to be stupid.
every time I see someone mentioning the word "rouge" I get the urge to say "yes, we are overpowdered"...
From the logs it seems he tries to use /castsequence macros for button smashing. This rarely delivers satisfactory DPS. Just a guess!
He should switch to Assassination for Elegon. Given how bad his Combat rotation is (sorry, harsh but true), Assasination is a more forgiving spec.
Also, for some good pointers he should look at http://www.icy-veins.com/classes-wow
Last edited by Zhira; 2013-02-08 at 10:18 AM. Reason: clarification
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