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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    i7-930 is 2 generations old, soon to be 3. That is not something you would want to buy now.
    alright thank you - I see you have a i5-2500khow is that

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyTheWarrior View Post
    alright thank you - I see you have a i5-2500khow is that
    It is pretty good but also 1 generation old. The latest generation is named 3xxx.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    It is pretty good but also 1 generation old. The latest generation is named 3xxx.
    alright. I heard that the i5 would be better for gaming and i7 is more for editing whats ur take on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyTheWarrior View Post
    alright. I heard that the i5 would be better for gaming and i7 is more for editing whats ur take on it
    The i5 isn't better, it is just as good, but also $100 less. For editing the the difference is minimal, it is when it comes to the rendering after your editing the i7 takes a slight lead, maybe 15-20%.
    If you are going to render a large project it can take several hours so I know a lot of people do it when they aren't going spend time at the computer so then the performance difference doesn't really matter.

    It really comes down to how you are going to use your computer. If you spend a lot of time during the day with rendering stuff the extra investment in a i7 might be worth it. i7 are also supposedly a bit better when it comes to streaming at 1080p or higher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    The i5 isn't better, it is just as good, but also $100 less. For editing the the difference is minimal, it is when it comes to the rendering after your editing the i7 takes a slight lead, maybe 15-20%.
    If you are going to render a large project it can take several hours so I know a lot of people do it when they aren't going spend time at the computer so then the performance difference doesn't really matter.

    It really comes down to how you are going to use your computer. If you spend a lot of time during the day with rendering stuff the extra investment in a i7 might be worth it. i7 are also supposedly a bit better when it comes to streaming at 1080p or higher.
    Thanks if you don't mind me asking how you like the rest of your set up

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyTheWarrior View Post
    Thanks if you don't mind me asking how you like the rest of your set up
    My motherboard is just a motherboard, it works fine and I got nothing special to say about it.

    My Noctua NH-D14 is great, one of the best air cooler on the market, only bad thing about it is the color scheme which doesn't really fit any other parts ^^

    The RAM is just like any other RAM except that it is low voltage, doesn't make much difference though.

    The GPU is really good and the one I have is incredibly good for overclocking. The cooler on it is really quiet and combined with my case it is pretty cool.

    The SSD is OK, it is a Sandforce so it has the usual slow performance when it comes to non-compressible data. I'm going to get a bigger one in the near future, 120GB is way too small for me, I have to move around games every month it seems depending on what I play actively.

    The case is Amazing, I just recently bought it but I can't see myself changing it any time soon. It is one of the best cases for air cooling and it has that special premium feel to it.

    The PSU is good but also fairly old, the fan has started making some noise lately and I'm going to replace it with a 80+ gold rated modular PSU for better cable management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    My motherboard is just a motherboard, it works fine and I got nothing special to say about it.

    My Noctua NH-D14 is great, one of the best air cooler on the market, only bad thing about it is the color scheme which doesn't really fit any other parts ^^

    The RAM is just like any other RAM except that it is low voltage, doesn't make much difference though.

    The GPU is really good and the one I have is incredibly good for overclocking. The cooler on it is really quiet and combined with my case it is pretty cool.

    The SSD is OK, it is a Sandforce so it has the usual slow performance when it comes to non-compressible data. I'm going to get a bigger one in the near future, 120GB is way too small for me, I have to move around games every month it seems depending on what I play actively.

    The case is Amazing, I just recently bought it but I can't see myself changing it any time soon. It is one of the best cases for air cooling and it has that special premium feel to it.

    The PSU is good but also fairly old, the fan has started making some noise lately and I'm going to replace it with a 80+ gold rated modular PSU for better cable management.
    Thanks for the input

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    Quote Originally Posted by FancyTheWarrior View Post
    Thanks for the input
    You're welcome, if you have any other questions about my hardware or peripherals feel free to ask more.
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    I honestly wish I had splurged just that extra $50 to get the FT-02... I instead went ahead and got the RV-02E. While it is a great case, it just does not have the premium feel to it like the FT-02 does.

    Here is a build I threw together. There are lots of things that could be changed to save money, but it does include monitor, mechanical keyboard and mouse. Things could also be changed to color coordinate a bit better.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.22 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.73 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($226.99 @ Mac Mall)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($383.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SST-FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($290.51 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.71 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
    Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($296.99 @ Amazon)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M90 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $2121.03
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-01 11:34 EST-0500)

    Again, it was just kinda thrown together to give you an idea of a really nice air cooled rig. (Also, the seasonic 660W platinum psu was only ~$1 more than the gold)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idrinkwhiterussians View Post
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.22 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.73 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($226.99 @ Mac Mall)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($383.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SST-FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($290.51 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.71 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
    Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($296.99 @ Amazon)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M90 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $2121.03
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-01 11:34 EST-0500)

    Again, it was just kinda thrown together to give you an idea of a really nice air cooled rig. (Also, the seasonic 660W platinum psu was only ~$1 more than the gold)
    This is a really nice build. That case is nice but I don't see why it would cost close to $300. I may sound cheap but I think paying more than $150 for a case is nuts. But then again the case is all about personal preference and airflow. I'm using a http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007S02GLQ/?tag=pcpapi-20 but i picked the white version since I wanted something different and it fit into my budget nicely. As a vet I fell in love with the ammo can look of it.

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    Air coolers is so huge and clunky. If you got a windowed case you really should be looking at the H100i. If fan noise is a problem for you, it is legal to replace stock fans. Whenever I get a new case (which is relatively often considering I own a Dremel and like to have a go) I always do the necessary modifications to it and replace the stock fans etc. and puts in a new shiny fan controller.

    My NZXT Switch is about 32% original. I got it just because I like the window but will change it into a 900D once it's available. I have replaced all the fans with Noiseblocker blacksilentPro 140mms making it not only cool and stylish but also dead quiet. If you can't find a case that you like, get your dremel out and start making a random case that you sorta like into a case you do like. It's not hard at all and it's even a bit of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idrinkwhiterussians View Post
    I honestly wish I had splurged just that extra $50 to get the FT-02... I instead went ahead and got the RV-02E. While it is a great case, it just does not have the premium feel to it like the FT-02 does.

    Here is a build I threw together. There are lots of things that could be changed to save money, but it does include monitor, mechanical keyboard and mouse. Things could also be changed to color coordinate a bit better.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.22 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.73 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($226.99 @ Mac Mall)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($383.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SST-FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($290.51 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.71 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
    Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($296.99 @ Amazon)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M90 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $2121.03
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-01 11:34 EST-0500)

    Again, it was just kinda thrown together to give you an idea of a really nice air cooled rig. (Also, the seasonic 660W platinum psu was only ~$1 more than the gold)
    Thanks for the post. I am also enjoying that site it is from.. never found it in my searches

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    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AXZv
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AXZv/by_merchant/
    Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/AXZv/benchmarks/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus Maximus V Extreme EATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($369.00 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($184.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 2GB Video Card ($142.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    2Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 2GB Video Card ($142.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($193.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Sentey GS-6500R ATX Full Tower Case ($119.98 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.71 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)
    Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1762.82
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-02 01:20 EST-0500)

    how does this set uplook
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    I wouldn't recommend crossfire over a more powerful single gpu. Crossfire/SLI has compatibility issues, driver problems, microstutters (less in nvidia SLI), sometimes crossfire doesn't even work etc. 2 7770 would cost about as much as a GTX660ti/HD7950 and those will both outperform 2 7770's in most cases.

    What to pick out of them? If you play WoW and Blizzard games mostly, I'd take the 660ti. If you play other games more frequently, I'd pick the 7950. Both are excellent performers.

    edit: Very good Motherboard choice. You will not be dissappointed. BTW, your build is going to look quite awesome with those parts, you haven't considered a windowed case? The H100i's lit up corsair logo and the ROG-logo alone will give you a nice looking build that shouldn't be hidden completely behind a black door.

    Have you considered cases like:

    Fractal Design Define R4 Black pearl window
    NZXT Switch 810
    Corsair Graphite 600T

    I normally choose a case that I like the look of and that has good solutions. I am extremely picky on cases though so I never settle for a "stock case" that I haven't modded/upgraded in any way.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by FancyTheWarrior View Post
    how does this set uplook
    Pretty bad use of money overall.


    Motherboard is stupidly expensive. you don't need the top of the line $350 model unless you're planning to do LN overclocking. $150-200 range is perfectly fine.

    You can't fill even 8GB of RAM in gaming use, so 32GB is total overkill in many ways. 16GB is considered to be sensible "future proofing" purchase today.

    All SLI/Crossfire problems are more pronounced on low end cards with very few benefits. Instead get one (or two) high end cards.

    If you want to blow $200 on sound card, rather get Asus Xonar Essence STX, not ROG branded toys. Both are overkill unless you have $200 headphones or $2000 studio quality speakers.

    Rather cheap monitor when looking at the overall picture.

    Missing SSD. With that high budget you should be looking into 250GB models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idrinkwhiterussians View Post
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($222.22 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($80.73 @ Amazon)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($226.99 @ Mac Mall)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($383.98 @ Newegg)
    Case: Silverstone SST-FT02B-W-USB3.0 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($290.51 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 660W 80 PLUS Platinum Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($140.71 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
    Monitor: Dell U2412M 60Hz 24.0" Monitor ($296.99 @ Amazon)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K90 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
    Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M90 Wired Laser Mouse ($34.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $2121.03
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-01 11:34 EST-0500)
    I don't get how you managed to spend $1600 on the tower and only managed to fit in an Extreme4, 8GB of RAM a 670 and a 3570K...

    Budget is weighted way too heavy on non performance components.

    Quote Originally Posted by FancyTheWarrior View Post
    how does this set uplook
    If you wanted to spend money to spend money, go with custom watercooling first over 80+ Platinum PSUs, $350 motherboards and expensive cases. Unlike PSUs, motherboards and cases, watercooling will actually increase the performance of your rig as well as make a large impact on temperatures and noise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurano View Post
    watercooling will actually increase the performance of your rig as well as make a large impact on temperatures and noise.
    You'll still hit the same 4.6-4.8GHz ceiling with water cooling as you do with air cooler with Ivy Bridge, so there's zero performance gain.

    And yes, it has large negative impact on noise with 3-4C temperature gained while still being 40C under the maximum allowed. If you really want to push water cooling for serious performance gains, you need to go X79 route and with i7-3930X processor.
    Last edited by vesseblah; 2013-02-02 at 11:19 AM.
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    Here. Better Motherboard (cheaper, just as good), correct ram (You don't really need more than 8gb, or at least haven't indicated such), a large SSD, a better video card, a better PSU. (I'm also a little confused that people are quoting you, but their quote doesn't match your most recent post, so I think that you may have changed the post after they quoted you)
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($223.79 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($188.55 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($289.99 @ Newegg)
    Sound Card: Asus Xonar Phoebus 24-bit 96 KHz Sound Card ($193.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Sentey GS-6500R ATX Full Tower Case ($119.98 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Amazon)
    Optical Drive: Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($56.23 @ Amazon)
    Monitor: Asus VE248H 24.0" Monitor ($164.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1671.44
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-02-02 06:21 EST-0500)
    Last edited by chazus; 2013-02-02 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yurano View Post
    I don't get how you managed to spend $1600 on the tower and only managed to fit in an Extreme4, 8GB of RAM a 670 and a 3570K...

    Budget is weighted way too heavy on non performance components.



    If you wanted to spend money to spend money, go with custom watercooling first over 80+ Platinum PSUs, $350 motherboards and expensive cases. Unlike PSUs, motherboards and cases, watercooling will actually increase the performance of your rig as well as make a large impact on temperatures and noise.
    Agree, that 2000$ build wasn't the best I've seen. I don't agree with you however on the motherboard, PSU and case. A good motherboard will last alot longer than a decent one. I don't personally buy motherboards below 250$(Norway) as I don't need to budget when upgrading/building, and those motherboards are of a much higher build quality than their budget counterparts. I'm not saying the ASRock Z77 isn't a good board, it is, but I wouldn't personally buy it.

    The case is something I wouldn't overlook completely. Spending a few more $ on this could be well wort it in my opinion. It's all down to looks and cable management/build quality and lower end, cheap cases usually fail on all three of these parameters. I know, most of you don't think highly of the Switch 810, but I think it's a fantastic case not beaten by any case in the last year. However, a really expensive case like the Temjin 11 is better, but at it's price the Switch 810 is the best case on the market. If you don't believe me check out TomToLiveCustoms on youtube and he will confirm this 100%. So will many other enthusiasts.

    A high quality PSU is about the most important thing you can ever buy for your computer. This particular piece is supposed to run and run and run for years. If it faults you risk damaging your whole system. Do the budget on that worst-case scenario and tell me exactly how you can justify skimping on the PSU. It doesn't do anything for performance, no, but it is a vital part of your system. Buy a good one like a Corsair AX and you have a 7 year warranty taking you through at least 2 builds. In the skimping case scenario you probably would want to buy a new one for the next build.

    It's not necessary to have a high capacity on wattage, although I would never personally buy anything below 850W as I am liable to suddenly try out 4-way SLI etc. But most people won't do that and would never need anything over 500W. However, the AX760i is the smallest AX PSU from Corsair and it is highly recommended even if it is a gigantic overkill. It's the best PSU I can think of at the moment and the cable management will look absolutely gorgeous. That is worth a few $, at least to me.

    Custom watercooling will only outperform normal cooling by a few % and will cost at least 1000$ to actually be a viable cooling solution. I'd recommend getting high quality case fans that runs silent instead of messing around with watercooling. You also have to factor in that you need to maintain a watercooling system at least 5-6 times a year making it quite a hassle for most people. I would only recommend water cooling if you are a case modder tbh, it does very little for actual performance.

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    Case & psu are most important go for a good solid Aluminium Case to keep the heat down
    Those cheap zany platic tin cases stay away from -& a good psu which will give you true clean electric on the rails

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