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    its illegal to unlock your cellphone

    Starting Saturday you can face a fine or even jail time if you unlock your cellphone.

    Customers who want to use their smartphone they bought from one of the big carriers such as AT&T, Verizon or Sprint, can no longer unlock their phone with software that allows them to switch cellular networks and use the same phone, according to multiple media reports, including ABC News.

    The change in the law does offer a grandfather clause for anyone who unlocked their phone prior to Saturday, but those who choose to unlock it now that it's illegal could face thousands of dollars in fines and even jail time if they unlock a phone for commercial purposes.

    Unlocking of phones has become popular after Apple Inc.'s popular iPhone has become available on many different carriers in recent years, and unlocked phones using Google's popular Android system have surged in popularity.

    The change in the law was actually made by 83-year-old Congressional Librarian James Hadley Billington, according to PCWorld.com. The online tech news site says Billington is responsible for interpreting the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) and that he decided in the fall that unlocking phones would violate the law that was intended to fight digital piracy.

    The smartphone segment is rapidly growing among business executives, with a surveyconducted by The Business Journals last year revealing that small and midsize business owners are more connected than ever to technology, significantly boosting the time spent on the Internet, their use of social networks, and their adoption of new tech tools.

    The survey found that 37 percent of executives used a smartphone or PDA, up from 27 percent in the past year. And their adoption of technology in general has grown. This includes companies all over the Dayton region, including a law firm that outfits all lawyers with iPads.


    http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/ne...lock-your.html
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    Why do 83 year old males get to dictate laws on today's technology? I think perhaps he should go back to regulating the horse and buggy.
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    His last name definitely suits him that's for sure. This guy just needs to retire already, he's clearly out of the loop when phone companies themselves can unlock it for you, if they approve said unlocking then who are we hurting here? Exactly, no one. This guy just wants to control the way phones work, he's 83 and he hasn't got much longer to live, this may sound harsh and I might get infracted but I hope his time is up soon.

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    I found this an interesting Blog from my provider, it is an interesting take, and a good read.

    What I would like to point out is this:
    What’s illegal is circumventing protections against unlocking. In effect, customers of the major mobile carriers can still unlock their phones, but they’ll need their carrier’s express permission to do so.
    Read the full article.

    https://ting.com/blog/unlocking-smar...ing-customers/
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    He was appointed in 1987 so he is really not elected but can interpret law.

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    I thought it was already illegal. My tech-saavy friends were always talking about doing this kind of stuff with their phones, and that a tiny slip up could screw up the phone permanently.

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    It's just another way for cell providers to maintain their exclusivity on certain models. Which, if you ask me, is just stupid. I choose my provider based on price of services combined with level of customer service provided, not by the fact that they're the only one to have the newest shiny toy.

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    So at the end of the contract I can give the phone back for a price, right?

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    Its not actually illegal until someone is sued over it and it only applies to subsidized phones. If you actually but the phone then you can do whatever you want with it.

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    I love how big corporations can buy politicians to do whatever they want.
    You're getting exactly what you deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SourceOfInfection View Post
    I love how big corporations can buy politicians to do whatever they want.
    almost like it was 110+ years ago(with the big titans of industry carnegie,rockefeller,vanderbilt,j.p.morgan,)....funny how history repeats itself. it will be interesting to see how this move plays out and affects the smartphone industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    almost like it was 110+ years ago(with the big titans of industry carnegie,rockefeller,vanderbilt,j.p.morgan,)....funny how history repeats itself. it will be interesting to see how this move plays out and affects the smartphone industry.
    Great depression aside, how has it changed in the last 100+ years?

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    almost like it was 110+ years ago(with the big titans of industry carnegie,rockefeller,vanderbilt,j.p.morgan,)....funny how history repeats itself. it will be interesting to see how this move plays out and affects the smartphone industry.
    Quote Originally Posted by geewhiz80 View Post
    Great depression aside, how has it changed in the last 100+ years?

    Monopolies were broken up and new entrepreneurs like Henry Ford emerged, who paid a working wage, and allowed the market to be more consumer driven. This created one of the most prosperous era's in American history and also coincided with the time period where the middle class grew to the largest it's ever been.

    Men who Built America was on last night, apparently I may not have been the only viewer of it.

    http://www.history.com/shows/men-who-built-america
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    Btw, unlocking is NOT the same as jailbreaking. The reason why I say this is because it's a misconception that I noticed on other forums discussing this. Jailbreaking your phone is still totally legal.

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    According to the new law.If you have bought that phone after jan 26 2013 it is illegal to unlock without network provider permission. If you want to make it legal you have to sign a petition in the Link below.
    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pet...legal/1g9KhZG7
    It has to be done by 23rd of February .To make it legal you need to wait until 1 lakhs petition to be signed in and approved by USA government .
    If thats not your case you can very well unlock with the help of online vendors like http://www.onlinegsmunlock.com . lets pin our hope that the petition should be approved.. i just purchased an Iphone 5 and i want to unlock it
    Last edited by googlegirl; 2013-02-15 at 10:27 AM.

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    Sounds nice, now try to enforce it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Sounds nice, now try to enforce it lol.
    Easy, just enforce it selectively. You piss off someone powerful, and they can hammer you with this when they can't find anything else.

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    The reality is this was bound to happen with all the changes in technology lately

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcrobaticMegalodon View Post
    Btw, unlocking is NOT the same as jailbreaking. The reason why I say this is because it's a misconception that I noticed on other forums discussing this. Jailbreaking your phone is still totally legal.
    Jail breaking is still a foggy subject, because technically you are altering copyrighted computer code.

    I don't think it will be long before corporations have more rights and protections than people. You pay $375 to terminate the contract, which the cell phone company agrees is fair for the loss of money for the subsidized phone, and you can't take that same phone to another carrier? Derp.

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    As it is here in Denmark you buy a new phone with pretty much any major company you choose if you want to pay full price for it or get it cheap ...the discounted price *cost* that you need to stay with that company and use the phone on there net ( if possible ) the next 6-24 months depending on the amount you pay for it ... after this you can get the phone unlocked at there store for free.

    This seems 100% fair to me ... im guessing it is about the same in other countries ? .... if so whats the deal ? .. want to use the phone with another company just pay the full price.

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