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    1 expansion worth of content is scraped

    you could probably make an entire expansion out of scraped content
    spider underground zone from wotlk that was scraped and turned into a dungeon
    quel thalanar zone from vanilla still not completed
    stormwind vault raid completed but empty
    Zul'Drak troll raid
    3 scraped islands from draenor
    vash'jir raid
    emerald dream map+zone half completed
    lore characters such as multiple gaurdians and titans that we read rumours about but never show up ingame
    fun exciting things they use to attract you to a new expansion is new dances and dance studio

    all of that would equal to 1 whole expansion that would genuinely last 1-2 years

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    It probably could but it would be very disjointed

    The emerald dream is already getting a raid and more spotlight in legion
    Zul'drak really has no remaining story line since it was turned into 2 dungeons
    Everything in draenor has already been resolved so while it would be cool there is no real point
    Whats the point of a raid in a vault? we already had siege of orgrimmar and there are much more better settings for a vault raid
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    People act like scrapped content is some kind of terrible, nearly illegal, satanic thing. Every movie, every TV show, and every video game features an entire duplicate of itself in cut content. It's ridiculous how rabid you all get over it in WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Riptor View Post
    It probably could but it would be very disjointed

    The emerald dream is already getting a raid and more spotlight in legion
    Zul'drak really has no remaining story line since it was turned into 2 dungeons
    Everything in draenor has already been resolved so while it would be cool there is no real point
    Whats the point of a raid in a vault? we already had siege of orgrimmar and there are much more better settings for a vault raid
    zul drak has the giant snake..that was what the raid was going to be about

    stormwind vault is vanilla tier 3 raid that was never delivered

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    I think they're saving that for the "final expansion after final expansion".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    People act like scrapped content is some kind of terrible, nearly illegal, satanic thing. Every movie, every TV show, and every video game features an entire duplicate of itself in cut content. It's ridiculous how rabid you all get over it in WoW.
    that is not the same
    blizzard has shown this stuff at blizzcon a lot

    it is like advertising for harry potter with wands shooting everywhere
    but you watch the movie and all the wands are scraped/cut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archon14 View Post
    I think they're saving that for the "final expansion after final expansion".

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    lol.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by skannerz22 View Post
    you could probably make an entire expansion out of scraped content
    spider underground zone from wotlk that was scraped and turned into a dungeon
    quel thalanar zone from vanilla still not completed
    stormwind vault raid completed but empty
    Zul'Drak troll raid
    3 scraped islands from draenor
    vash'jir raid
    emerald dream map+zone half completed
    lore characters such as multiple gaurdians and titans that we read rumours about but never show up ingame
    fun exciting things they use to attract you to a new expansion is new dances and dance studio

    all of that would equal to 1 whole expansion that would genuinely last 1-2 years
    1. Maybe as a patch...but as an expansion...NADA!

    2. The hell is that place? If it has NO lore then...please god why make a zone with quest out of it?

    3. A raid inside Stormwind? While we've had one at orgrimmar....please....just please...let it be a gilneas raid!

    4. We've atleast had a dungeon...jesus dude...that's all we need....There's still hope the expansion after legion....HIGH HOPES to be exact.

    5. Please...No more AU timeline bullshit. Or...just atleast put farahlon in legion. Maybe as a patch 7.2 where the legion puts a full on invasion on draenor searching for artifacts much more powerful than Much of the MU azeroth artifacts. Maybe tie up some loose ends....would be good...just...bring more grommash drama...know who the hell the dark one is...maybe have more void lore...maybe the apexis civilization.

    6. No...NO GOD PLEASE NO...NO...NOOOOOO! Maybe in the naga expansion but please....NOOOOOOOOOOO!

    7.We already have one...it's called the emerald nightmare raid...coming summer of 2016. LOOK IT UP!

    8. And how is that scrapped. We now know the fate of tyr in the priest artifact questline, we know MUCH of the titans in stormheim now...well...we know some. We see the vrykuls valhalla they've been trying to search for 1k years ago. Hell, have we even seen the panthion yet...oh wait.....We will...OK...And what do we have to do? WAIT OK!

    9. The dance studio sounded redundent on paper and the new dances seemed impossible mainly because rap was invented during that time. Also, You forgot air combat.....meh....atleast we have ICC!

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    Whats scraped? An idea. Its not like they built a raid and said "NAW" hucked it in the bin and just moved on. They have ideas for things and if they tell us (bad idea) and then never do it, we call it scraped despite the fact it was never more than a drawing and maybe an outline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    People act like scrapped content is some kind of terrible, nearly illegal, satanic thing. Every movie, every TV show, and every video game features an entire duplicate of itself in cut content. It's ridiculous how rabid you all get over it in WoW.
    Earliest date for Legion - June 22, 2016. (First date of summer

    Release date of 6.2 - June 23, 2015.

    So, yes. People get pissed at cut content because that cut content, even if it IS disjointed, could bridge that 12 month mother!@#$ing gap. Blizzard has stated again and again that they wish to release content faster - instead, they are cutting content again and again. In Mists of Pandaria, there was a battleground that was datamined in 5.3, but was scrapped. In Cataclysm, the War of Eternity raid concept was reduced to a 5 man, and the Abyssal Maw raid was scrapped (Theres still an instance portal for whatever was supposed to be there, and Neptulon will probably continue to be tentacle raped for another 3 expansions). People get pissed at cut content because Blizzard is NOT delivering timely content. While you can say that no content is better than piss poor content, numbers have shown to disagree with you - At least from a money-making stand point, even if a raid sucks !@#$ing balls, people are going to subscribe at least for a month for that raid, and Blizzard has really only released one full-on raid that sucked, Dragon Soul - Which, btw, had quite a bit of content cut from it (Originally was planned to be a 12 boss raid, with 3 fights being against Deathwing. Neutered to what it is.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Whats scraped? An idea. Its not like they built a raid and said "NAW" hucked it in the bin and just moved on. They have ideas for things and if they tell us (bad idea) and then never do it, we call it scraped despite the fact it was never more than a drawing and maybe an outline.
    Abyssal Maw raid. Fully completed. Had 5 bosses. Chucked out. Main reason given was that the Vash'jir feedback caused them to not go with it (Was going to be an entirely underwater raid).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasontheking1234 View Post
    1. Maybe as a patch...but as an expansion...NADA!

    2. The hell is that place? If it has NO lore then...please god why make a zone with quest out of it?

    3. A raid inside Stormwind? While we've had one at orgrimmar....please....just please...let it be a gilneas raid!

    4. We've atleast had a dungeon...jesus dude...that's all we need....There's still hope the expansion after legion....HIGH HOPES to be exact.

    5. Please...No more AU timeline bullshit. Or...just atleast put farahlon in legion. Maybe as a patch 7.2 where the legion puts a full on invasion on draenor searching for artifacts much more powerful than Much of the MU azeroth artifacts. Maybe tie up some loose ends....would be good...just...bring more grommash drama...know who the hell the dark one is...maybe have more void lore...maybe the apexis civilization.

    6. No...NO GOD PLEASE NO...NO...NOOOOOO! Maybe in the naga expansion but please....NOOOOOOOOOOO!

    7.We already have one...it's called the emerald nightmare raid...coming summer of 2016. LOOK IT UP!

    8. And how is that scrapped. We now know the fate of tyr in the priest artifact questline, we know MUCH of the titans in stormheim now...well...we know some. We see the vrykuls valhalla they've been trying to search for 1k years ago. Hell, have we even seen the panthion yet...oh wait.....We will...OK...And what do we have to do? WAIT OK!

    9. The dance studio sounded redundent on paper and the new dances seemed impossible mainly because rap was invented during that time. Also, You forgot air combat.....meh....atleast we have ICC!
    There ARE instances of air combat throughout Northrend in the questing experience. Also, Malygos raid. They delivered on Air Combat, as poor as it was. New Dances is on my !@#$ing Wrath of the Lich King game box as one of the promised content. The only "new" dances are the ones available through new races. I could have gotten a refund for that!
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    It would be all over the shop like what Riptor said, plus I'm assuming they were scrapped for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIamaKing View Post
    Whats scraped? An idea. Its not like they built a raid and said "NAW" hucked it in the bin and just moved on.
    That is literally what they did with Abyssal Maw...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raugnaut View Post
    Abyssal Maw raid. Fully completed. Had 5 bosses. Chucked out. Main reason given was that the Vash'jir feedback caused them to not go with it (Was going to be an entirely underwater raid).
    And I thank them dearly for it. Since I actually raided around that period and would've hated to have to do underwater fights for an ENTIRE raid.
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    Unfortunately, almost all scrapped content was half-done or not even that. They'd still have to go through and finish it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverware View Post
    That is literally what they did with Abyssal Maw...
    Not so much though, since it was only 3 bosses without unique artwork inside of Nespirah which was also not unique artwork. They never got to coding it or anything so it still isn't an entirely built and thrown out idea. was a thrown out in early design phase.
    Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Riptor View Post
    Zul'drak really has no remaining story line since it was turned into 2 dungeons
    Yeah but the snake bro

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    Blizzard has scrapped entire games they felt weren't up to par. Having scrapped content in a single game shouldn't be a surprise. Thinking on what Darthisis said about movies, similarly, about 10 years ago, Bon Jovi released a 4 disk compilation of songs, many of which were songs that never made the cut for their albums. And it wasn't because they were all bad. It was that they just didn't fit the albums when they were recorded. Many artists will release such songs as bonus tracks too. Tons of stuff is made and gets cut in order to create a complete piece of work. It's pretty normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    People act like scrapped content is some kind of terrible, nearly illegal, satanic thing. Every movie, every TV show, and every video game features an entire duplicate of itself in cut content. It's ridiculous how rabid you all get over it in WoW.
    The difference is that when a TV show cuts things they still deliver their promised amount of content, typically it's the same with movies(some end up shorter than they should be). WoW cuts things and delivers less than they promised. Which is why they're promising less. All over promising does is piss people off.

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    Sadly I felt in WoD that the garrison Inn 'guests' brought hints and more interesting story to what was going on in the world than anything else. And loving stories myself to me it hurts things pretty bad when there are loose ends. I'm not talking about "You haven't seen the last of me Gadget!" But just randomly stopping as if our characters give zero f's about the character or turn of events. Its bad enough that lore content is sometimes blocked via mythic raiding but its just not good story telling or immersion when your characters can't do anything about dead ends. I think the biggest one for me was the Varian was kidnapped chain back in vanilla and how that sorta disapeared without your character even trying to find the king.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    People act like scrapped content is some kind of terrible, nearly illegal, satanic thing. Every movie, every TV show, and every video game features an entire duplicate of itself in cut content. It's ridiculous how rabid you all get over it in WoW.
    Seriously, I don't understand it either. There's a reason it was scrapped. I feel like people hear the phrase and somehow think that this was completed and worthwhile content, and the creators just randomly decided to never release it.

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    OP you are so very wrong. You could make probably 5 expansions out of scrapped content. There is so much content that doesn't even make it to the hype stage. So many things get dropped after a little bit of development or even none at all. It's a natural part of game development.

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