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    Do you miss rogues in BGs?

    I recently leveled my rogue (always PvPd with her). I m so lonely in Bgs.

    I PvPd druids, hunters, locks and mages, but rogue was fun, never top of dmg but always annoying. I think rogues are now weak, easy cc d into irrelevance.

    Even when I get the drop on a player, everyone has lots of cc to chain to either stop me or escape.

    I think losing rogues to Bgs has been bad for the flavour of PVP, everyone has lots of tolls to counter rogues to an attack from stealth carries few worries for anyone.

    Rogues need a big big buff, slippery stuff, lots of vanish, lots of cc resistance.


    What happened Blizz, I still see nuking locks, mages, dks, warrior, hunters, lots of healing bu just about everyone, rogues have just been left out of the party.

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    Don't worry just sit tight and I predict you will see a lot of rogues next season, looking into my crystal ball I predict good things for our dagger wielding Brothers and Sisters in season 13 :-)

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    I started to level a rogue in cata (not for legendaries, just because I had every other class).

    I got it to 50 or so through BGs and it was great fun, sadly I wanted to RAF a Monk in MOP, so had to delete it to make room for a new toon to grant levels to the monk.

    Now I have an 11th slot, thought I'd level another rogue and I must say ITS BLOODY HORRIBLE. Someone thought removing the baseline shadow step would be fun, and its now a level 60 ability. Honestly, I'm not sure I'll even bother leveling to 60 to get it, because rogues in low level BGs feel slow, clunky, and have no burst like they did before.

    However as Raversword said, they'll be pretty neat in S13 at max level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensword View Post
    looking into my crystal ball I predict good things for our dagger wielding Brothers and Sisters in season 13 :-)
    If by this you mean "Fewer classes have OP burst potential which means people will look more to a Rogue's CC potential and survivability", then yes, there will be more rogues.
    But not for dealing damage or anything. Our damage is still locked behind the "build 5 combo points for minor burst" barrier.
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    The state of cc is really stupid, hit a lock, get insta feared, hit a priest, get insta feared, touch a hunter, get rooted and shit on by a zoo, etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaryki View Post
    Rogues need a big big buff, slippery stuff, lots of vanish, lots of cc resistance.
    They're getting it, son, they're getting it. I still see a decent amount of rogues in bgs, btw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaryki View Post
    I recently leveled my rogue (always PvPd with her). I m so lonely in Bgs.


    Even when I get the drop on a player, everyone has lots of cc to chain to either stop me or escape.
    Hahahahahaahaha. That coming from a Rogue. Feel bad doesnt it? Karma

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    Rogues and Warriors must be the most fotm classes the game has ever known. Cata season and you see zillions of rogue rerollers. Next season zillions of warrior rerollers.

    I just wish the game was designed in a way that wouldn't be class > all but player > all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreeshak View Post
    Rogues and Warriors must be the most fotm classes the game has ever known. Cata season and you see zillions of rogue rerollers. Next season zillions of warrior rerollers.

    I just wish the game was designed in a way that wouldn't be class > all but player > all.
    The only way to do that is making every class homogenized, or different comps will always exist. Blizzard just needs to be more willing to hotfix balance or do small balance patches like once a month.

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    If there was one good thing about the 1st Season in MoP, it is that Rogue learned what it means to be at the bottom of the PvP food chain.
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    rogues will never have most fun in ur average random bg just cuz you are bursty class that relies on control and bgs are usually too crowded for that to happen.

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    I enjoyed killing people in 60-70 bg's in wrath and cata, but my rogue is still at like 81 or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illiterate View Post
    get rooted and shit on by a zoo, etc
    Have I missed something from playing my hunter?

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    No i dont miss you rogues waiting for my shaman to come and just targeting me thinking that youre the skilled ones.

    And in CATA i tried to be skilled but i couldnt take you rogues down because of your almost passive selfheals, control and counter to damage done always ending up with you above 50% life and me lying dead in the ground.

    Now im so happy. Tho i started playing on a rogue a bit. They seem pretty interesting when not a FOTM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naturetauren View Post
    Now im so happy. Tho i started playing on a rogue a bit. They seem pretty interesting when not a FOTM.
    So your interest revolves around purely what's not "hip"? Since gameplaywise rogues have stayed the same as always.
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    As a warlock who has been raped by rogues for years: No, I do not miss the rogues in BGs. And I sure as hell dread what 5.2 will do to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kreeshak View Post
    Rogues and Warriors must be the most fotm classes the game has ever known. Cata season and you see zillions of rogue rerollers. Next season zillions of warrior rerollers.

    I just wish the game was designed in a way that wouldn't be class > all but player > all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by naturetauren View Post
    No i dont miss you rogues waiting for my shaman to come and just targeting me thinking that youre the skilled ones.

    And in CATA i tried to be skilled but i couldnt take you rogues down because of your almost passive selfheals, control and counter to damage done always ending up with you above 50% life and me lying dead in the ground.

    Now im so happy. Tho i started playing on a rogue a bit. They seem pretty interesting when not a FOTM.
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    No, but I've got some hit rating...

    Really though, I do miss the unskilled rogues, because an unskilled rogue is beatable, an unskilled warrior can still get a two-minute-KO. I still do panic just a little when I get sapped, and I'm trying to heal the FC.
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    FOTM Rogues reroll rogue for killing, dealing mass burst dmg and stunning ppl.

    Real rogue players stick with rogues not for killing ppl but for The great power of stealth in Ojective based Battlegrounds with a big advantage in SMines, AB, AV and Strand !

    In vanilla wow i was switching between Warrior(Flag carrier tank) and rogue because i like the melee aspect in the game, but Rogue is the class i like the most. Soon BGs will be swarmed again by new FOTM rogues who will stick 2 mindfield camping and that is a pitty. True rogues go for objectives to win not Kb ( unless it's arena )

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