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    Buying new Computer-Need help.

    My current computer is 4 years old and it's time for a new overhaul, out with the old in with the new/semi new. I'm not posting anything from my old comp since it's years behind current systems, only thing I want to keep is my 500gb hard drive and my case if possible(so i'll post those. I am a new user but have been reading Mmo-champion for years. I live in British Columbia Canada and my budget is $1400 but of course best bang for buck even if it is a bit cheaper that would be fine! Not Overclocking my motherboard or gpu.

    Mother Board: ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
    Url: newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157294

    OS: Currently have Windows and have the discs.

    Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K BX806237i53570K Processor - Quad Core, 6MB L3 Cache, 3.40GHz (3.80GHz Max Turbo), Socket H2 (LGA1155), 95W, Fan, Unlocked, Retail
    Url: newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504

    GPU: Galaxy 66NNH7DV6WXZ GeForce GTX 660 Ti GC 3GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
    Url: newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814162119

    Ram: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-1600C9D-16GXM
    Url: newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568

    SSD: Intel 335 Series SSDSC2CT240A4K5 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
    Url: newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167128

    Fans: N/A, not sure if to stick with stock or get aftermarket.

    PSU: SeaSonic M12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
    Url: newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151095

    Case: Antec Sonata III 500 Mid Tower
    Url: store(.)antec.com/Product/benclosure/sonata-iii-wo-psu/0-761345-45452-0.aspx

    Total= $1,064.44

    I got a 2 year warranty on the motherboard and gpu. I need to know if I should get 2 more fans with the liquid cooler or with the fans it comes with will it be good on its own? Will i need a interface card or will the one from my comp work or do i need one at all. Will my case fit all this or do I need a new one. Will i need to buy a new copy of windows 7 or can I just fresh install it? Also if anyone has any other suggestions that would be amazing.
    Edit: Added Psu
    Edit: Change everything to newegg and new total and minus Water cooling.
    Last edited by ishien; 2013-02-04 at 05:40 AM.

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    Change the motherboard to a ASRock Z77 Extreme4
    Change the SSD to either Crucial M4 or Samsung 830/840 PRO

    I'd personally go for a GPU with an aftermarket cooler, unless you want a cooler with the sound of a jet engine.

    What about a power supply?
    The 2 fans on the H100i should be more than enough.
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    I have the 256GB Intel - 335 SSD. It is VERY fast and I love it. I would definitely check it out. This SSD is very reliable and is worth every penny.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820167128

    ---------- Post added 2013-02-03 at 11:37 PM ----------

    Also: Water cooling takes a lot of work and if you don't even plan on overclocking that processor there is no point in buying an aftermarket heatsink. If you plan to overclock the i5-3570k to 4.4GHz or around there, go for the Noctua NH-D14 or a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO w/ an extra fan for the push/pull.

    I would recommend getting Air cooling. Water cooling is overrated and takes much more effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inux94 View Post
    Change the motherboard to a ASRock Z77 Extreme4
    Change the SSD to either Crucial M4 or Samsung 830/840 PRO

    I'd personally go for a GPU with an aftermarket cooler, unless you want a cooler with the sound of a jet engine.

    What about a power supply?
    The 2 fans on the H100i should be more than enough.
    I knew I was forgetting something.

    PSU: Ultra LSP750 750-Watt Power Supply - ATX, SATA-Ready, SLI-Ready, 135mm Fan, Lifetime Warranty w/ Registration
    Url: tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3276567&Sku=ULT-LSP750

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    The PSU is overkill. If you are only running a single GPU then you can honestly get away with a 550 Watt PSU and still have a lot of headroom (I mean a lot).

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    Hmm okay I shall try again, I can't find any of the suggestions on Tigerdirect, would it be better If i order form newegg then so I don't have to order from two sites? Or is it best to to get the best dollar value. Also the Psu is on sale for $70 the closest one I can find to 600w is like $5 cheaper or more. I also don't plan to Overclock since i'm not going to dual card and I can run most games I will play on high-ultra settings and I don't fraps or run dual monitors or anything.

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    If you don't plan on overclocking at all, then you might as well not buy an aftermarket heatsink and save money.

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    Alright, thanks for the help! This is the first computer i'm building from parts. So since no one has mentioned my case or needing a new os I should be fine there. Inux94 suggested a gpu with after market cooler, should I still go that route or stick with the stock heatsink and just buy fans?

    ---------- Post added 2013-02-03 at 09:29 PM ----------

    Changed everything to new egg and added in the suggestions above. I still need info on if a i need a new O/S for the ssd and if my case will fit all that. Also will the stock fans be fine or will i need a aftermarket or a extra one, still a bit confused there since its my first build i'm doing myself.

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    The corsair builder series aint that fantastic, just grab a seasonic m12 520-620w or a XFX core 550w and you're set.

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    Alright cool, Still $70 cheaper then the tiger direct one i set up. So i assume i don't need a new O/S or case?

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    Seems fine with me, you might want to grab a couple of 120mm fans to throw around you're case for added airflow, but apart from that it seems good to go.

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    Very awesome, Thanks for all your help! If you could answer my last question, I want to use my current 500gb hd in it for added storage of music roms ect, do I have to uninstall windows 7 from it or just set the boot drive to the ssd?

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    your best off removing the operating system from the 500gb hdd and only having it on the ssd you might also look at getting the intel i5 3570 you only need the k model if you are planning on overclocking

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    If you manage to scrape yourself 100-140 more bucks then this setup is much better than the one you have listed. It will run all game maxed for years at 1080p.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toffie View Post
    If you manage to scrape yourself 100-140 more bucks then this setup is much better than the one you have listed. It will run all game maxed for years at 1080p.

    pcpartpicker.com/p/Bo9H[
    If my case would fit all than i'd be saving myself like $75 so i would be able to get that, well i can still get it but if I don't need a new case I would perfer it as I have rather grown quite fond of it.

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    your case is fine for what you are building there is no point of an after market cpu cooler as like you said you are not overclocking

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    Quote Originally Posted by prankstar View Post
    your case is fine for what you are building there is no point of an after market cpu cooler as like you said you are not overclocking
    It's not just about overclocking but about having that is less noisy and having better performance at the same time. You're right though it's definitely not a must have.
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    With the aftermarket cooler would I be able to overclock eventually and do I need thermal paste? I'm planning on ordering everything in the next couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ishien View Post
    With the aftermarket cooler would I be able to overclock eventually and do I need thermal paste? I'm planning on ordering everything in the next couple of days.
    Yes you would. I recommend this one, fairly cheap and decent quality and noise levels:

    Xigmatek Gaia- $30

    Thermal paste is pre-applied or in the box with the heatsink.
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    You can overclock with a stock cooler to a certain extent (unless your ambient temps are like mine currently 38c) however a 212 evo is so cheap you may as well just get one and if you decide to overclock it should be able to achieve around 4.2GHz with just a 212.

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