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    latest sub figures

    Does anyone have any idea when the latest Wow sub figures are going to be released?

    The last financial quarter ended recently and theyre part of Blizzards financial quarterly report so im guessing its soon right?

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    They will have their call this week, I think it was the 6th. So the numbers will be out quite soon, perhaps the 7th. MMO has them always 1 day after the call on the frontpage.

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    The meeting is in 3 days, they will be out on the 7th.

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    What's up with people and their overly-grown exagerated interest towards the subscription value of wow? Lately, I feel that mmo-c has been invaded by Activision-Blizzard shareholders.... everyone asking about the subs left and right.

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    I personally believe the numbers of subs are related to changes made or reverted.

    I saw a lot of qq regarding some features in MoP; the grind, dailies, gear behind rep and stuff. All in place just to make sure we spend a lot of time online. This goes especially for those countries where players don;t pay a monthly sub but pay for their time online.

    I personally don't like this either.. and the only way this will change is a huge drop in subs. If subs stay about the same, then the direction will be evaluated as okay.
    From this point of view, the sub numbers are quite interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dethox View Post
    What's up with people and their overly-grown exagerated interest towards the subscription value of wow? Lately, I feel that mmo-c has been invaded by Activision-Blizzard shareholders.... everyone asking about the subs left and right.
    its the best (by no means perfect) indication we have of how the new expansions direction is being received by players and that may impact on whether or not there is a change of direction by Bliz.

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    I understand why people care so much, but I want them to accept one thing:
    A decline in subs is no guarantuee that Blizzard will change their direction to something you prefer!

    And as long as people understand this, the forum will be a much nicer place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    I understand why people care so much, but I want them to accept one thing:
    A decline in subs is no guarantuee that Blizzard will change their direction to something you prefer!

    And as long as people understand this, the forum will be a much nicer place
    No, not into something you want... but Blizz knows what is driving people away as they leave a message at the door and general complaints on different forums.
    Even on MMO-C we have a blue poster, reading and sometimes posting.

    We say patch 4.3 making a 180 degree turn during Cata.
    So it is not directed to make 1 person happy but they try to take away the major qq-reasons.

    We can complaint whatever we want...... but in the end: money talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    I understand why people care so much, but I want them to accept one thing:
    A decline in subs is no guarantuee that Blizzard will change their direction to something you prefer!
    True. But. Anything, ANYTHING is better than the current bot-friendly/alt-unfriendly/LFR and CRZ-infested/raid-or-quit shit. A "decline in subs" aka less money is the only language the Activsion-Blizzard of 2013 understands.

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    More people than ever have more things to do than ever.
    Blizzard will most likely do nothing particularly drastic even if subs drop . It's just the post-expansion drop we see every time.
    Well, since anyone reasonable could see how an 8year old game don't attract new people even by a fraction as fast as it did when it was new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoicefromwithin View Post
    True. But. Anything, ANYTHING is better than the current bot-friendly/alt-unfriendly/LFR and CRZ-infested/raid-or-quit shit. A "decline in subs" aka less money is the only language the Activsion-Blizzard of 2013 understands.
    Which is exactly my point.

    They implemented those things because people were leaving in Cataclysm and I like both CRZ and LFR.
    CRZ is because people were upset that zones were empty, because you didn't have that MMO-feeling.
    LFR is implemented to stop people from leaving WoW.

    So who's to say that you will like the new feature they create to stop the subloss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    I understand why people care so much, but I want them to accept one thing:
    A decline in subs is no guarantuee that Blizzard will change their direction to something you prefer!

    And as long as people understand this, the forum will be a much nicer place
    I agree that game changes r not necessarily liked by each player... but some of us r looking outside of the insular world of Wow. Did MoP really pull back so many players? Did MoP gain a whole load of new players? Was the Panda theme a success or should they have aimed at a more grownup market? That kinda thing... sadly the only way to really answer those questions effectively is to view the quarterly financial report.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synstir View Post
    No, not into something you want... but Blizz knows what is driving people away as they leave a message at the door and general complaints on different forums.
    Even on MMO-C we have a blue poster, reading and sometimes posting.

    We say patch 4.3 making a 180 degree turn during Cata.
    So it is not directed to make 1 person happy but they try to take away the major qq-reasons.

    We can complaint whatever we want...... but in the end: money talks.
    Subs went down in cata, changes in MoP changed that. If they change it to cata style subs will go down more. Subs go up and down. GC will not make your toon OP to stop it so don't hold your breath lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synstir View Post
    No, not into something you want... but Blizz knows what is driving people away as they leave a message at the door and general complaints on different forums.
    Blizzard pretty much came out and said they screwed up Cata launch by making things too hard and then proceeded to give us super casual Twilight heroics and LFR and yet there are still people on this forum who would insist that Cata lost subs because it was too casual. People will believe what they want to believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synstir View Post
    Even on MMO-C we have a blue poster, reading and sometimes posting.
    MMOC's blue poster is purely there to provide tech support advice

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    MMOC's blue poster is purely there to provide tech support advice
    So you think they told one of their employees to post here but they do not read the topics other than tech problems?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    So you think they told one of their employees to post here but they do not read the topics other than tech problems?
    They certainly read it but they don't post except to offer tech support advice.
    Synstir claimed that a blue posts in WoW related discussions which is not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dethox View Post
    What's up with people and their overly-grown exagerated interest towards the subscription value of wow? Lately, I feel that mmo-c has been invaded by Activision-Blizzard shareholders.... everyone asking about the subs left and right.
    And those numbers are always weighted too. Like when Cataclysm lost all those subs after its first patch people thought a million people just up and rage quit because dungeons were too hard, nobody stopped to think that the 4.0 patch left a lot of lower end systems in the dust and entirely eliminated PowerPC support (which I know Americans don't think amounts to anything, but a lot of people in Asia and Europe still used non-Intel Macs and got chopped off when Cata hit which is where the sub loss was most widespread.)

    People always use these subscription reports only as petty anecdotal evidence of positive or negative change based on something they wanted being or not being put into the game. That's pretty much their only function for anybody outside of a board room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Imnick View Post
    They certainly read it but they don't post except to offer tech support advice.
    Synstir claimed that a blue posts in WoW related discussions which is not true.
    I don't think that was the point of his post, I think it was more to point out that we now have proof in the form of a Blizzard poster on the boards that they do read the complaints from players posted here.

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    The funny thing is that people move on in life, grown up, or in cases pass on. This causes changing in subs and people thing its a big deal. Numbers change all the time and its going to when you have such a huge diverse game like WoW. Losing 1 million subs could mean they left, or had real life stuff and will be back or just simply stopped subbing and went to game cards. If you enjoy playing play and dont let this concern you. Alternately if you dont like playing leave and enjoy whatever else it is you like.

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