The only thing I don't understand is how It's so bad for Warriors to sit in Defensive stance for 25% dmg reduction (15% as of 5.2), but it's ok for Mages to get a new talent that reduces dmg up to 30% passively...
I can't believe a blue wrote the following?!? Is this guy realizing he works for a videogame company?!?
"Not so long ago (12 years ago?) it was believed that the average gamer stopped playing videogames at some point on his mid 20s due to real life constraints and would stop playing altogether. If you think about it, and the games we had back then, it kinda makes sense. Most of them were still rather hardcore and not accessible to what we consider today a casual gamer, so it's not entirely surprising to see people out there that think that because you're 30 years old you shout put gaming down and move on."
I'm wondering what's the proportion of players above 30 in the game but in my guild it's 100% including 50% over 40, all with jobs and half with kids. Reading this kind of BS from a blue tends to piss me off. I'm pretty sure that WoW would be gone if it wasn't for the older players.
an old and grumpy player.
Last edited by Gnu; 2013-02-05 at 03:39 PM.
He is PRO old players. Any MMORPG before WoW was pretty hardcore and expensive (internet costs, subscription fees etc.), so in the beginning the WoW player base was also pretty hardcore. They didn't have a problem with extensive farming, grinding and wiping. But during the past 8 years the player base evolved overall. games are much more accessible today, no matter if you're playing GTA, Skyrim or WoW.
Some older players tend to see themselves as "oldschool elite", because they grew up with games like Mega Man, Civilization, Everquest, Zork or Falcon 4.0, which weren't "casual" at all. I think this attitude is quite antiquated and extremely "geeky".
Computer games are not a safe haven for lost souls and nerds anymore. They are mainstream. It's okay to play as an 30+ person ;-)
I can imagine that if you pulled and killed 5-8 (or more!) skinnable mobs, something I often do on my Druid, pull lots and bear swipe them down really fast, then you are left with lots of corpses to skin. Before you could loot one, skin it, loot another, skin it, loot another, skin it. Now you loot all and as you start skinning, someone else comes along and starts skinning your mobs, which they wouldn't have been able to do if loot was still on it.
I'm sure nostalgia has nothing to do with it. It was the first time I played WoW, to me it was fun only because of that reason. It was still extremely fresh and most people that remember and were here for BC remember it that way as well because now we have had so many expansions.
Also LFR is about people who don't have time to raid, those people who don't have time to raid normals don't magically not want gear anymore.
I might have misunderstood the Q/A regarding this point (not my native language) but I have the impression that the 30+ guy is pointing out the fact that he is an older dude and would like to see the future raids through LFR and the answer of the blue (the way I understand it) is "oh well you're old so no you're not entitled to see the different raids".
I personally don't agree with that. I think that all raids should be available through LFR,I was quite happy to do all the ones that are currently available and was thinking that the upcoming ones would be available through the LFR format. So if it's not the case I think it's a pity and if the excuse is "you don't have time to raid, too bad" I think it's even worst.
Again I might have misunderstood.
EDIT: reading all the comments above I might have missed the point complitely, well I'm not only old - I'm dumb too...
Last edited by Gnu; 2013-02-05 at 04:08 PM.
everyone can see in the ptr that ppl don't even want to take mages into the fights, instead trying to go with 2 warlocks, instead of balancing blizzard its keep forgetting on nerfing the current top dps class on the ptr WARLOCKS and keep destroying spec after spec of mages, and they keep wondering why their subscribers going down... ppl complaining about the new 30% damage reduction on mages but warlocks already have it passive via fel armor / soul link etc and i dont saw QQ about it. i only have one desire as a mage... let me play the spec i want and be competitive with it, if i am a good player i should be able to top the meters with that, if i suck i must be in the bottom, and make it that way to all the classes, let the skill decides who its better and not a class/spec of the month.
WoW this just made my day Not playing WoW due to aoe looting... thats a new one!I would love to start playing WoW again, but I hate aoe looting - any chance of an interface option/mod support to disable?
Can you explain what you hate about it? Is this a Skinning issue? (Source)
Blizzard will not do anything this expansion to fix the problem gear scaling is causing. To do that they need to change every spell in the game to scale exactly the same and that simply will not happen. And again - THAT is why the extra amount of ilvls are the WORST thing Blizzard can be adding to the game.... but its the ONLY thing they are doing at the moment.
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The real issues we will start to see now is with the healing classes since they will have more mana regen than before. This leads to the big expensive spells to become better - and some specs have the abilities to have both hots and casts spells at the same time - while others dont.
But before you go claim scaling is fine... We have yet to see ANY public tests with 5.2 gear. What we do know is that we can NOT trust Blizzard when all of a sudden the start talking about 10% change in 13 ilvls ... when we were expecting REAL balance over the entire expansion.
What happened to the days when PvP server players were proud to have leveled in a more difficult environment and mocked their "carebear" PvE counterparts? It just seems crazy to cry and point fingers about something that has been a staple feature of that server type (ganking) since the first people hit level 60.
This attitude really strikes me as a symptom of the new community that plays WoW. In the past you either took your lumps knowing you could dish it out one day, got your friends or guildmates out to help you (possibly starting a fun world pvp battle), or switch to your own high level character and make them pay. Now, everyone just runs to the forums and cries and asks for a good feature (CRZ) to be removed because now it's way harder to get a special snowflake ghost pet.
Garth Brooks convinced me it's not living if I stand outside the fire
oh shit the DLC comic...
i did not see that comming <3
i need that hat
So the members of the community have not changed. The server structure and their populations have been changed. Thats Blizzards doing - not the players.
Last edited by Duster505; 2013-02-05 at 06:33 PM.