North Korea PR video attacking USA

[Adam Jensen]

No, you've pegged me wrong. I know the immediate kneejerk reaction is to assume a tinfoil hat and a survivalism mentality with a bombshelter, but that just isn't so. As for busting down doors and taking away rights, they've been doing that for so long now it's not even worth more then this sentence.

Really? When have they done that?

[Sivick]

No, you've pegged me wrong. I know the immediate kneejerk reaction is to assume a tinfoil hat and a survivalism mentality with a bombshelter, but that just isn't so. As for busting down doors and taking away rights, they've been doing that for so long now it's not even worth more then this sentence.

thats what someone with a tinfoil hat and bomb shelter would say...

[Bigbamboozal]

In my opinion, the sky is brown and water is purple.

Wow, nice and totally not relevant. Like at all. I am not saying some crazy shit about the sky, I am simply saying america is as bad as any other nation on the planet, and on mmochamp, you guys love to nationbash everyone, and get really, REALLY, butthurt when anyone turns it back onto you.
You can see colors that aren't there and I have no issue, but when you come around and shit all over everyone else and act like you are the awesomest thing ever, I just sort of feel bad for the world having to have you here.

yah...that's the defenition of crazy right?

[Kalyyn]

Wow that's funny...and probably not going to happen.
America isn't nor will ever be the leader and dictator of nato, which in plain english is just what you suggest (how very communist of you), and the reason most people get on the nation bashing with you and yours.

Nato is ONE small flimsy step behind the U.N. which is a joke now and stands for nothing, and more over, is useless.
PRO TIP: no one will help when it falls apart from WITHIN.
Failing to manage your own country's affairs are not nato's problems.
Nor the rest of the worlds, you make your own bed, you gonna have to lay in it.

So, I hear you're from Canada? Let's talk about Canada.

You know, I've done joint training exercises with guys from the Canadian air force. Cool dudes, really knew their stuff. But here's a fun fact about your great little country: They've willingly volunteered to participate in basically all off America's wars. Hell, we usually get about as much support from them as we do from the British, when you account for the difference in military sizes. So not only does Canada ally itself with America, they actively fight our wars with us! Your government thinks that we're a pretty good buddy to have around.

So how does that make you feel?

[-Zait-]

I think the real issue here is that North Korea isn't believing enough. If you can dream it you can achieve it! You just need some imagination.

[Unclekreepy]

I'm not surprised, they are fed lies 24/7 (Kim jong il and his son Kim jong un) have their people believing they are the top country in the world.

[Bigbamboozal]

thats what someone with a tinfoil hat and bomb shelter would say...

again., shit all, just another one liner of uselessness. At least I have an opinion that is more then a one liner in life. At least I can say I thought for myself.
What have you got? hm? nothing. Not one original thought of your own, not one belief that means something, not one scrap of logic.
/clap clap begone! you have no power here.

[Reg]

So now you want a pissing match based on nationalism? Right...b/c after people were onesided nation bashing and I got my back up, you decide the solution and smart thing is to add to the fire with more nation bashing...after being butthurt?
Talk about dishing it out, but not being able to take it.
Sure, we have problems here, it sure as fuck ain't perfect. But you know, we have freedom too, but the better kind.
It's better b/c we still have some, not just a thinly veiled lie, reinforced with social pressure and propaganda.

No pissing match. Kind of humorous though, the second someone mentions something about your country, you're all defensive about nation bashing when it's all you have been doing in this thread. I read things people like you say about my country every day. But if you want to sit there and cry about how bad America is, like I said before, you better make sure where you come from is perfect. Every other thread that pops up on this forum turns anti-American. You make it sound like you're some sort of trend setter saying bad things about us. Here's a "Cool story bro" for you. I'm pretty immune to it because you've mostly spoken out of your ass so far.

And please, tell me how your freedom is better than ours? The United States, like many other Western nations, share the same freedoms. So why exactly are ours devalued?

[Redlokyldoreifanggore]

So now you want a pissing match based on nationalism? Right...b/c after people were onesided nation bashing and I got my back up, you decide the solution and smart thing is to add to the fire with more nation bashing...after being butthurt?
Talk about dishing it out, but not being able to take it.
Sure, we have problems here, it sure as fuck ain't perfect. But you know, we have freedom too, but the better kind.
It's better b/c we still have some, not just a thinly veiled lie, reinforced with social pressure and propaganda.

Wait wait wait... So you begin bashing the US out of nowhere in the beginning. And suddenly when people mention something about your nation they're being BUTTHURT?! Oh lawdy this is amazing. Also please point out, one specific juicy example of when they've done this little thought-police thing you keep mentioning. I have yet to hear of the US gov breaking down our doors because of people disagreeing with them. I think you took "1984" too seriously. Or have you moved on to Hunger Games? Maybe even Animal Farm?

[Bloodydemize]

It's kinda sad this thread is turning more into a flame war and humor thread rather than serious because of Bigbamboozal and others, can mods like take control of it or lock it? Holy hell, it is so off topic at points

[-Zait-]

It's kinda sad this thread is turning more into a flame war and humor thread rather than serious because of Bigbamboozal and others, can mods like take control of it or lock it? Holy hell, it is so off topic at points

Technically no rules are being broken, and mods have been posting in this so... yeah.

[Kalyyn]

It's kinda sad this thread is turning more into a flame war and humor thread rather than serious because of Bigbamboozal and others, can mods like take control of it or lock it? Holy hell, it is so off topic at points

To be fair, in a thread about North Korea talking about destroying America, it couldn't stay serious for very long. They're vastly more likely to nuke themselves than us...

[smelltheglove]

To be fair, in a thread about North Korea talking about destroying America, it couldn't stay serious for very long. They're vastly more likely to nuke themselves than us...

probably why china is at the end of their patience. an NK nuke aimed at DC is probably more likely to hit beijing with their current tech, and china knows it

[Sivick]

again., shit all, just another one liner of uselessness. At least I have an opinion that is more then a one liner in life. At least I can say I thought for myself.
What have you got? hm? nothing. Not one original thought of your own, not one belief that means something, not one scrap of logic.
/clap clap begone! you have no power here.

you have no idea the irony of you spouting off about logic...

[-Zait-]

probably why china is at the end of their patience. an NK nuke aimed at DC is probably more likely to hit beijing with their current tech, and china knows it

Guys just stop talking to Bigbamboozal. He's like a seagull, if you keep giving him food he'll just keep coming back. Don't feed the seagulls.

OT: I didn't even think of that smelltheglove, if America is nervous I wonder how nervous poor South Korea is. It's like having a homicidal conjoined twin you can't get rid of.

[Bigbamboozal]

So, I hear you're from Canada? Let's talk about Canada.

You know, I've done joint training exercises with guys from the Canadian air force. Cool dudes, really knew their stuff. But here's a fun fact about your great little country: They've willingly volunteered to participate in basically all off America's wars. Hell, we usually get about as much support from them as we do from the British, when you account for the difference in military sizes. So not only does Canada ally itself with America, they actively fight our wars with us! Your government thinks that we're a pretty good buddy to have around.

So how does that make you feel?

Rather saddened, as I am anytime people rush off to war and there is unrest in the world, someone's family will miss them, usually a lot of someone's families...and I don't give a toss who's side, it's just sort of sad no?
Who should know better then militar..oh wait, you're airforce, never seen close quarters infantry combat have you?
It's messy, us or them stuff, make you lose your lunch and question everything you know while you feel exilerated you are still alive. There are no athiests in foxholes, an argument against foxholes not athiesm.

Also, I dont think you get the scope of things...I am not some peaceloving hippy, I am no activist. I just don't agree with the way things are. I don't hate military personal, I understand what following orders is; do you always like everything you carry out for a mission?
Always agree with it on a moral principle? I'd bet your years salary otherwise. I get it, you suck it up and do the job.
Does not mean you have to like it or agree with it.

And I don't.
If you do, then that's complacent and disturbing, in my mind.
Let the world stay as it is, in blood, and terror, and every so often a new broom sweeps, and the shit starts all over again, yah...what's not to like right?

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you have no idea the irony of you spouting off about logic...

one liner. sad stuff, you are just stumped and have nothing right?

[Sivick]

Guys just stop talking to Bigbamboozal. He's like a seagull, if you keep giving him food he'll just keep coming back. Don't feed the seagulls.

OT: I didn't even think of that smelltheglove, if America is nervous I wonder how nervous poor South Korea is. It's like having a homicidal conjoined twin you can't get rid of.

Dunno about everyone else but I find it hard to be nervous about a country who's so poor and starving their farmers are turning to cannibalism... huge threat there...

[Xenofreak]

I'm sorry if not sucking down the nation bashing as long as it's not against america makes me "batshit crazy" , that having my own set of beliefs really rattles you guys so badly...but the world is a big, big place, and there are lots of us on it who just don't prescribe to your views.
If that really bugs you, maybe you should hold that ideal up to the light and have a good, hard, long look at it, and try to understand why it bothers you so much?

Having an opinion of difference does not = crazy, nor is it illegal, yet, but hey, your government is working on that...give it time right?

Let me break this down for you real quick. We are here, laughing at the silly North Korean video about it's "destiny to take down America". If you want to make a topic about the stupid things America does, or has done in the past, go ahead. As it is, this forum is very much filled with debate about just how shitty America is and some of the people in it are, and if you haven't seen it you don't seem to be paying attention. You're flat out delusional if you think this forum doesn't allow criticism of America.

But here's where it falls apart for you, and it crosses the line into nation bashing rather than criticizing: massive over-generalization and assumption that all Americans are 100% behind every action of their country, and insinuating that the country and it's people all think they should rule the world. At that point you step into utter delusion and denial. If you want to talk about America trying to make difference of opinions illegal, you are then forced to ignore history and reality entirely. Remember McCarthyism? Remember when being called a communist or socialist meant pretty much having your life torn down? We now have a president that is called a socialist (though he isn't), we have large portions of citizenry who support socialism and even communism, none of them are jailed or legally punished in any way for it. Large portions of American citizens have opposed pretty much every military operation we've ever taken. Plenty of people in our nation find our usage of chemical and nuclear weapons, and even our own government, to have been a horrible thing. There is no time machine to make it so we didn't do those things, the charities and aid you mock is the only thing we can do at this point.

You turn it into nation bashing instead of criticism by taking it to an extent that is utterly delusional and unreasonable, while actively insulting the citizens of the country.

[Kalyyn]

probably why china is at the end of their patience. an NK nuke aimed at DC is probably more likely to hit beijing with their current tech, and china knows it

Granted DC was probably just a random example, but if they're smart they'd fire it at Japan or Hawaii. Trying to hit mainland America gives us multiple hours to shoot it down. And against our countermeasures, that's basically an eternity.

And yeah, I'm sure China doesn't want NK fooling around with nuclear warheads. Even if they didn't hit China accidentally, American forces would be setting up shop over there that afternoon, and Beijing does not want to deal with that headache.

[Sivick]

Rather saddened, as I am anytime people rush off to war and there is unrest in the world, someone's family will miss them, usually a lot of someone's families...and I don't give a toss who's side, it's just sort of sad no?
Who should know better then militar..oh wait, you're airforce, never seen close quarters infantry combat have you?
It's messy, us or them stuff, make you lose your lunch and question everything you know while you feel exilerated you are still alive. There are no athiests in foxholes, an argument against foxholes not athiesm.

Also, I dont think you get the scope of things...I am not some peaceloving hippy, I am no activist. I just don't agree with the way things are. I don't hate military personal, I understand what following orders is; do you always like everything you carry out for a mission?
Always agree with it on a moral principle? I'd bet your years salary otherwise. I get it, you suck it up and do the job.
Does not mean you have to like it or agree with it.

And I don't.
If you do, then that's complacent and disturbing, in my mind.
Let the world stay as it is, in blood, and terror, and every so often a new broom sweeps, and the shit starts all over again, yah...what's not to like right?

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one liner. sad stuff, you are just stumped and have nothing right?

I'm a little busy to devote brain power to your stupidity and hate.

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