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    The Unstoppable Force RICH816's Avatar
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    Irans new stealth plane

    Iran recently took the wraps off its Qaher-313 "new super modern fighter plane," seen here nose-on. The quality of the aircraft shown in these pictures is leading some observers to wonder if Iran is playing a joke on the rest of the world. This plane is almost certainly a mock-up, because if it's not—well, look, I can only assume that the country employs at least one aerospace engineer, right? This has to be a joke, right?

    http://arstechnica.com/business/2013...lass-airplane/



    Any aviation experts here with an opinion? It looks way too small to fly, and why is the writing in English? Real thing or just a big bluff?

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    Update: This post (http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...6#post20202756) shows that the jet has been poorly photoshopped 'in flight'.
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    The Unstoppable Force Rukentuts's Avatar
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    I'm not an AeroE, but I have common sense; there's no way the propulsion and aeronautics systems necessary for that type of aircraft to fit in something so small.

    Edit:

    Our F35 for comparison:

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    I wouldn't expect someone who thinks science provides proof to know that.

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    there was something on yahoo the other day about this (take that source as you will, lol), claiming engineers "debunked" iran's claims of the aircraft. they cited lack of cockpit space, something about lack of engine cowls (they said a jet would melt itself without them). it was also said that vids were of a small rc plane, made to look like an actual jet. im no expert on this shit either, so idk.
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    Meet the new derp.

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    It's a model nothing more.
    also the room the plane is stored in has no doors suitable for the aircraft to exit.

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    There are several pages of comments on the linked page. It seems pretty clearly to be a mockup of some sort, for what purpose I'm not sure. It's like any number of concept cars you see at one of the big auto shows like in Detroit. You get some guy doing anything he wants with external styling, but it's all made out of wire and fiberglass with no drive train or functioning interior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombstoner139 View Post
    also the room the plane is stored in has no doors suitable for the aircraft to exit.
    Sure it does, it looks like the pictures were taken in a hangar. The reverse angle shows the door.


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    Behold terror, absolute!
    You kill or you die. Or you die and you kill.
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    It could be just a picture of model, not actually a plane. I don't think they will give away picture of their plane with their military base on background
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porcell View Post
    Sure it does, it looks like the pictures were taken in a hangar. The reverse angle shows the door.

    you sure that isnt the garage for the presidential motor pool? lol
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    The fucking Derpship has crashed on Herp Island...
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    Same as the old derp.

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    90% of the arguments against this plane is ''it isn't like our plain so that means it doesn't work''.

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    It's probably real on paper (though that is likely a prototype/model) but that doesn't mean it's any good or even works as intended.

    It's no competition for the Israeli F-16I but Israel still pulled the haters gonna hate card: ''Israeli aeronautics expert Tal Inbar said, "It’s not a plane, because that’s not how a real plane looks. Iran doesn’t have the ability to build planes. Plain and simple."''

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    It looks pretty fly-by-night to me, but then I'm no aerospace engineer.
    Well 1, 2, 3, take my hand and come with me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    It looks pretty fly-by-night to me, but then I'm no aerospace engineer.
    I'll believe it when they show video of it actually in flight.
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    It appears to be a mash up of many pieces of civilian aircraft modified for use of certain weapon systems. If that thing is legitimate it's akin to home projectile in comparison to a Beretta m9 and I wouldn't be surprised if its capability had been inflated.
    One cannot simply quit wow his way into Mordor.

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    Is it just the angle, or does the wing look incredibly boxy at the tip? lol

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    I certainly hope it's a model, for the pilot's sake. Check out that awesome quality canopy. Yikes.

    That thing is way too small and chintzy to be a functional aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    90% of the arguments against this plane is ''it isn't like our plain so that means it doesn't work''.
    We willed and acquired.

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    That cockpit brings this to mind for some reason:



    Let's compare:

    F-35 cockpit:



    This... thing's cockpit:

    Last edited by Reeve; 2013-02-06 at 05:56 PM.
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    Welp, The West had a good run, but looks like it's time to step aside. I for one welcome our new Iranian overlords.
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    Lets say you have a two 3 inch lines. One is all red and the other is 48% red and 52% blue. Does that mean there's a 50-50 chance they're both red or is the second line matching the all red line by 48%?
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    Just out of curiosity, can fiberglass survive a sonic boom?
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    I love that foamy insulation at the side of that thing's cockpit, lol!
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    I wouldn't expect someone who thinks science provides proof to know that.

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