Storylines ebb and flow. If every single action in the storyline was met by an exactly opposite reaction to keep both sides happy it would be the most boring story imaginable since nothing significant would ever happen.
As to your personal perceptions based on what you've experienced with regard to one set of quests, gear and lore being better written than another, that's all subjective. There's plenty of evidence around that you have your own view of things that's a bit askew from a lot of other people. So best to just say that it's an opinion and leave it at that.
Most people who raise the issue of Blizzard factional favoritism in a vehement way are either just stirring stuff up or totally ignorant of the rules of storytelling.
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Burning Crusade was 50/50
WotLK obviously favored Alliance, since pretty much all lore centered around the Alliance: Tirion, Arthas, Muradin, Frost Dwarves, Vrykul, Mechgnomes, you name it.
Then came Cataclysm, yes this expansion did favor the Horde. I agree with you on that, but don't make it sound like all the previous also favored the Horde because the facts are heavily against you.
Mists of Pandaria seems to slightly favor the Alliance to compensate for Cataclysm, but not by much.
I swear these type of threads leave me with a bad taste when I say "bias".
But the story moved on, there is no 'Our side are the good guys you guys are are the baddies' anymore in warcraft. Its simply now a case of both side being equal and opposite to one another. Neither horde or alliance will ever beat each other, and whatever one side does to the other, it will always be looked at subjectively now.
So, do alliance still think themselves the good guys and should win out absolutely? I dare say many do them do, because of the past rhetoric.
The horde is savage, wild and holds honor and aggression to its name. The alliance is prideful, arrogant and firm. And all I'm saying is it is so much easier to make one of these appear cooler and more badass then the other, the other requiring more effort to do so.
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"So in a way, I want even the gameplay to indicate that Varian is fighting a very different kind of war than Garrosh, remembering what the Alliance is supposed to be about. This lawful good overdrive. We're supposed to be superheroes, you know?"
By Metzen's own words the Alliance is the greater force of good between the two on the moral horizon scope. To call the Alliance anything but the good guys really is to ignore Metzen's own description of the Alliance. I'm not saying that the Alliance don't haver their bad eggs or that the Horde are bad or evil at their core.
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Intro gear was T9/ToCr reskins. Was made in Wrath and entirely subjective.and the gear has been better modeled for Alliance side.
"Rescue my son" is only a morally higher ground than "paint this new continent red".The intro to panda land is a much better story line than the intro on horde side imho.
No, Jaylock it's not.Is the obvious Horde favoritism blizzard has shown for years finally starting to die down?
I wouldn't say favor as much as its now the alliances turn to have some character building and gains in the war. Cata had alot of horde centered lore in terms of how the war was going and thrall. But its not like its ever been highly unbalanced. The horde are getting some nice lore on some of their leaders that had in the past little to none. I also hear people say "Well the alliance has their guy as the new lich king" Well thrall is the defacto aspect of the earth so we got our love as well.
See, your not looking at the larger picture, because however you want to intrpret it, there is no lawful good in the kind of war happening right now, the only good in it comes from those thinking outside the war itself.
horde races live in rotting hovels and filthy huts, Alliance live in cities. It's comparing uncivilised versus civilised, with a few cross overs.Horde has aggressive races with savage undertones living in harsh wastelands and in the wilds.
Alliance live in castles and tree houses.
Sorry it's not a "cat" it's a Lion. A single lion could annihilate an entire pack of sniveling wolves and send them scattering tails between their legs with a ferocious roar in the real world. And lions operate in groups as well. A lion is a symbol of strength far greater than anything a stinking wolf could represent yet you call it a "cat". And there in lies the problem, along with terribad writing.The alliance has a cat for its symbol.
The horde has a wolf.
One on one, the fight would likely go to the lion. But your claim of a single lion taking out a wolf pack was just plain silly.
Not really. You watch a nature film and see a pack of wolves take down a buffalo you don't realise that 10+ other times, an individual buffalo drove them off and probably killed one goring it or stomping on it. Wolves aren't successful hunters and haven't any power at an individual level, unlike a 500+ lb lion -.-One on one, the fight would likely go to the lion. But your claim of a single lion taking out a wolf pack was just plain silly.
The Alliance are not and cannot be "the ultimate good" when they have their own problems in them. They are the "gooder" (that's a word now) of the two and that's how it's always been, the Alliance are the light grey and the Horde the dark grey which you yourself referenced a page ago when you described the differences between the two in your own interpretation.
There is a reason I said "moral horizon scope" as we're that atm the Alliances morals are more resolute compared to the current Horde's.
Do I have to quote myself? "I'm not saying that the Alliance don't haver their bad eggs or that the Horde are bad or evil at their core.".
So like I said at thei core the Horde is good, but currently they are not a force of good.
How can you in the current story not see the Alliance as the good guy's and the Horde as the bad guys? The whole Horde narrative is that Garrosh has made them the bad guys and that certain members and leaders don't like that.
Btw the Metzen quote is about both Varian and the Alliance "remembering what the Alliance is supposed to be about" and constant use of "we" not "he". Atm the two are also mutual.
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Blizzard does not favor one faction over the other, and never has. Horde tends to be more interesting at least in my opinion, but that is because of the nature of the faction, not the treatment they get from Blizzard.
the only thing i can see blizzard favouring is alliance airships .....so far in the last what 3 expansions every horde airship you have gotten onto has either crashed blew up gotten attacked or otherwise gone down in a fistful of flaming death .
So the way i se this its blizzards way of promoting alliance airways over hordes harrasers, so i,m going to contact the EU fair trade court and get this sorted sue blizzard for promoting unfair compatition in azeroths airways .
Ok can i remove my tinfoil hat now please please its starting to chaff my buttocks