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    4th spec possible?

    Blizzard separate feral and bear into two specs giving a total of 4 specs to choose from for druids.

    Can we expect a 4th spec for other classes in the future?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Blizzard separate feral and bear into two specs giving a total of 4 specs to choose from for druids.

    Can we expect a 4th spec for other classes in the future?
    I doubt it. Druids were unique in that two roles were in the same tree. No other class operates the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Blizzard separate feral and bear into two specs giving a total of 4 specs to choose from for druids.

    Can we expect a 4th spec for other classes in the future?
    Would cause a blance hell
    IMO i wouldnt expect one, not now maybe when the game lasts some more years

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    It's hard enough already to balance the 34 specs we have. A fourth spec is not needed and would be a big waste of development.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cherrytie View Post
    Would cause a blance hell
    IMO i wouldnt expect one, not now maybe when the game lasts some more years
    How would adding a new spec for a number of the classes cause balancing problems anymore then all the huge revamps to classes this expansion did? There was so many revamps that a number of classes changed significantly to the point that they no longer played how they used to.
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    4th spec only happened to druids because Feral had 2 specs build into one tree. It won't happen to any other classes. Not now, not ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehman View Post
    4th spec only happened to druids because Feral had 2 specs build into one tree. It won't happen to any other classes. Not now, not ever.
    That being said, how do feral tanks rank on the totem pole right now? I can't remember the last time I saw one in a heroic or raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehman View Post
    4th spec only happened to druids because Feral had 2 specs build into one tree. It won't happen to any other classes. Not now, not ever.
    Druids aren't the only classes in that situation however. Warlocks currently have a pseudo spec in Dark Apotheosis. Shaman are another class that seem to have a pseudo 4th spec.

    People also seem to forget that Blizzard completely redid the Druid, Warlock, Priest, and Mage classes along with adding an entirely new class (and a new race). Ironically 4th specs would take less work.

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    I think it's the billionth topic about the same thing in 2012, and there is probably around a million with the exact same name.

    No, there won't be. Period.

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    I'd rather we get a new class than to see 4th specs on everybody. 4th spec sounds incredibly boring in comparison to getting a new class with 3 specs. I still want to see the Bard appear in WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bionics View Post
    That being said, how do feral tanks rank on the totem pole right now? I can't remember the last time I saw one in a heroic or raid.
    Bear tanks are pretty amazing - 50% dodge with 4set bonus with no cooldown is pretty OP, esp on fights like 3rd boss MSV heroic, Spirit Kings, Blade Lord, Wind lord (Can't imagine another tank other than Bears solo-tanking the boss + all those adds on 4th boss HOF). That being said, we have the highest armour value of any tank at the moment (sitting at 67% damage reduction while reforging AWAY from Mastery, could easily reach 70-71% if I enchanted/gemmed for it), and bear DPS is pretty crazy (hello 130k Mangles with a blue weapon )

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    Yes pls! I want mages to have an arcane based healer spec. If not a 4th spec, then just revamp arcane to be a healer spec. Its so boring as dps anyways. And being a pure dps sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Blizzard separate feral and bear into two specs giving a total of 4 specs to choose from for druids.

    Can we expect a 4th spec for other classes in the future?

    Some classses could easily support a 4th spec.

    Others - even today - have trouble supporting 2 . The three specs were brought in at least partly to balance talent point expenditure and while the revamp allowed for a 4th spec, it also removed much of the necessity for three.

    However, while it might be neat to see a major rejigging of specs, swith some expanding and others collapsing, its unlikely to happen.

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    Adding an additional specialisation to every class would be a massive undertaking and throw the game off balance. Even adding them one by one comes off as extremely unlikely, and it's better to look into improving and fixing the already existing specialisations.

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    there has been made a topic http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...s-and-new-race

    maybe its worth talking about it there instead of making a new topic about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarrlogar View Post
    I'd rather we get a new class than to see 4th specs on everybody. 4th spec sounds incredibly boring in comparison to getting a new class with 3 specs. I still want to see the Bard appear in WoW.
    And I'd rather we got neither new classes nor new specs until the existing ones are all in an acceptable state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    And I'd rather we got neither new classes nor new specs until the existing ones are all in an acceptable state.
    Which will never happen because someone will always complain about something.

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    I've often wondered if this will happen or not (not if it should, if it will).

    Blizzard have admitted on numerous occasions that the game's bloated with too many abilities, that they like to add new ones each expansion, and don't like removing old ones due nostalgia (among other reasons), they've openly admitted it's a problem they're not sure how to tackle.

    If they added a 4th spec to the remaining classes, we all get new abilities without adding to the bloat of existing specs.

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    Never say never.

    Those arguing about balance, it's irrelevant. The reason we have messed up balance is the new talent tree's and lack of testing beforehand for overpowered burst and ofc the OP instant CC's.

    Say for instance they added a Warlock tank spec, they would just make it so they scale from Vengeance. All cooldowns will be exclusive to that spec only.

    Same goes for a Paladin caster spec. They would have access to the same heals as Prot and Ret, but instead deal damage through ranged attacks instead of melee.

    While every class might not get a 4th spec, I would not be surprised if we see at least one more before WoW ends.

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    Hope not. That would make PvP even more imbalanced. Dear lord... just thought about how bad it would be...
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