From my calculations, it'll be
Normal : Renataki + Shado-Pan
Heroic : Renataki + Bad Juju=Bloodlust for BM/MM, Renataki + Shado-Pan=Bad Juju=Bloodlust for SV.
Old Gods made me do it.
Really wish I had gotten my H trinket from Elegon, kind of annoying that you can't upgrade anymore because now even if I did go back and get it it can't be that amazing anymore until they bring upgrades back. Guess I'll be using the new VP trinket and upgraded relic for a while then.
Renataki has two variables that I don't know since can't test it. If both are positive, it will be very good (add 10% agi). So I assume middle level.
If not, you're right, H Bottle does look better - for SV.
Last edited by Thiron; 2013-03-04 at 08:53 PM.
Old Gods made me do it.
so for Normals, will be Shadopan and Talisman of bloodlust?
I still don't understand how they could let a friendly rep trinket be so good. I feel either 1) we don't understand something about the RPPM system and are undervaluing trinkets which use that proc through incorrect modeling, or 2) Blizz doesn't understand something about the RPPM system and are undervaluing trinkets by making them under budget.
Additionally, I actually like this despite us not being able to upgrade our trinkets at all. If the shado pan trinket and the H bottle 2/2 become bis even for H with bad trinket RNG that means we can pass on all the trinkets to all the other agi users in the raid which is a net gain because we have our best trinkets and they get an upgrade.
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Strikes me as very odd that a Valor trinket would be BiS even through Heroics, but at the same time if that actually turns out to be the case then I'm not super mad at how easy it will be to check off one BiS from my list.
Does the recent post by GC about the RealPPM (40mins ago) changes anything? also HC Talisman of Bloodlust won't be BiS?
"RealPPM Functionality Changes
We changed RealPPM to use your true melee haste or spell haste (whichever is higher) to scale the proc rate instead of attack speed or casting speed. The difference is that things that buff your attack speed (such as the raid buff or Slice and Dice) do not increase the frequency of RPPM procs. True haste boosts, such as Bloodlust or haste rating on gear will improve proc rate. We felt this change was necessary to balance proc rates among different specs."
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I'm just curious as to what they are going to do with all the other Real PPM oriented things. Our set bonuses were somewhat balanced around it. That was the reason why MM had .2 less Real PPM compared to SV.
It's a stupid design that previous tier trinket and an easily obtained rep trinket are BiS. of all the 4 new trinkets nothing its good for hunters? its just for Hunters or its good for other classes?