I have relic of Xuen upgraded *2, normal bottle and Shado-Pan assault and reading this post I got that I should use Relic + Shado-Pan. But then I noticed that I get lower dps in femaledwarf. Actually, I found theese for my char: Bottle + Shado-Pan > Bottle + Relic > Shado-Pan + Relic. I reforged my gear each time from wowreforge. So, can anyone confirm me that I just screw something in femaledwarf and that Relic upgraded+ Shado-Pan is the best combination from the trinkets that I have?
P.S Is there any normal t15 trinket better from upgraded Relic?
Last edited by anon93; 2013-03-08 at 08:37 PM.
I just woke up but I can't figure out why that's a DPS loss. Would absolutely love for someone more awake and aware to take a crack at it.
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Been messing around with normal bad juju this week, and I think even with such a horrible PPM it's actually pretty good. Has an uptime equal or better to the shadopan trinket, and you have a chance to RNG out a much better uptime. The only problem I have with it is that it doesn't really line up with initial burst, but it's not like you can pop stampede anyway, so it's not that big of a deal. Hopefully I'll get to play around with the Primordius trinket soon.
Tehstool, you said that 2/2 Bottle HC and the VP one where BiS pre HC but when i sim the VP one and relic 2/2 i get 130 more dps then with bottle, Why?
I believe it's because in theory relic can give you more agility if it procs every time it's off icd, however it will rarely do so and bottle is more reliable for cd stacking
I'm wondering if the relic will become more valuable as our Crit Chance goes up. Meh... bottle is probably still better, although I can't imagine them being that far apart.
Just as a reference... we are stating 2/2 H Bottle is better than 2/2 Relic correct? Would it be wise to try and get the heroic bottle still without the upgrades? I was never lucky enough to get the bottle... it always went to other agility users.
i haven't read the whole thread. but i'd like to just point out that the proc rate on rentaki's soul charm is horrendous. my bottle of infinite stars had proced 4 times before i got the first rentaki proc. During a 12minute dummy session, rentaki procced 3 times. With these kinds of proc rates, my old 496 terror in the mists beats the rentaki hands down. Atleast on dummy dps.
my options currently are relic (1/2), hc bottle (0/2), normal terror in the mists (0/2) and rentaki's soul charm. I think i'm going to stick with bottle and terror, for now atleast.
i am disapoint.
Last edited by aGit; 2013-03-09 at 01:29 AM.
When I first got my valor trinket I really hated it. The internal cooldown is massive and the hit was annoying to deal with. However now I've actually played with it for a while and done some raiding it's actually pretty dang amazing. It's so nice to stack the proc with big cooldowns.
Get into the habit of using your 2nd Readiness, Stampede and potion when it procs. If you have Bottle of Infinite Stars as well you will most likely see that proc as well during it.
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Wow all this mess .. From normal im currently aiming for Soulcharm and the valor one, swapping Soulcharm with soulcharm HC when heroics are hitting, passing Juju HC for our rogue, and THEN i will probably pick up juju HC instead of the valor one.
Anything i should consider?
I mentioned the 2nd Readiness, Stampede and potion specifically because you will generally only use these abilities only 2 times per fight. As Tehstool explained, don't delay things so far that you lose out on one use.