Pet tanking isn't really needed when you have 4 warlocks.
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So yeah, I'm one of the scrubs who really prefers playing MM over SV or BM (sorry, MM is just a lot more engaging and entertaining to play). I've seen a lot of folks saying Juju + Soul Charm are BiS, but that's largely for SV/BM. What's the general consensus on BiS for MM? I've seen Talisman get tossed around a bit, but I'm just not sure.
Assuming hit/expertise cap, is LFR Juju better than the VP trinket?? I just messed around in femaledwarf a bit and it looks like its simming higher. Am I doing something wrong or is that right??
I'd love to whip up some math showing how much worse it is, but Bad Juju uptimes vary from log to log. Best you can do is raid with both trinkets equipped and calculate from there on. But I've been in situations where my heroic thunderforged Bad Juju was hardly any better compared to my valor trinket. My gear is improving and over time I'm noticing the gap getting wider and wider, but because that person is asking about LFR items I'm assuming his gear is LFR/normal mode level. Long story short, he might not have a whole lot of haste to play around with.
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So marks with 541 bloodlust and 541 RoR is pretty interesting hitting 30k+ haste and procing non stop
Hi there, long time reader, first time poster.
In terms of trinket power etc, these are the trinkets which I currently have access to right now -
Bad Juju (522)
Valor assault trinket
Heroic Bottle (2/2)
Talisman of Bloodlust (502)
I'm quite confident that Rune should not be used. Neither should Xuen now. However, from the other trinket choices I have, I'm just wondering what would be best.
Can't post links yet but my character is Eu Ellesméra on Alonsus if you're curious.
is there any real way to justify using tf bloodlust trinket for anything other than mm? if you already have reg rentaki and shado-pan trinket?
Fairly sure TF Bloodlust is going to be better than Valor.
edit: I read this as HC TF Bloodlust. Not sure on TF Bloodlust (read: 528) vs Valor. Possibly a Valor win here, sim it.
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HTF Bloodlust is not bad, and might actually be our BIS. A lot of people are dismissing it but the primary + secondary + uptime is actually better than juju, and it will help increase the proc rate of renataki's. We did some napkin math and it may be worth going, but it's so fucking hard to tell with RPPM and STACKING buff. I mean what the fuck is blizzard thinking? We got rid of Arm Pen because it was "too mathy" only to replace it with Haste plateaus and RPPM. I would kill for an on-use 1m trinket for BM.
HTF RoR is just too hard to use to be effective. Even if the trinket is actually best in slot, the only way I could see it working properly is to go for crit and HOPE it procs within ~5 seconds of bestial wrath and holding bestial wrath for it. The losing haste part isn't that bad because of dire beast, rapid fire and focus fire.
Rentakai's is absolutely our best trinket. If you want to do 500k dps burst and 200k+ on some fights with good procs, this is the trinket.
Juju I have extreme mixed feelings about. This thing either is the best thing blessed by the gods, or the worst trinket ever made in wow. When it procs, you will be #1 dps, but if it doesn't you will be #10.
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