ToC was the first raid to be built in the idea of rushing expansions. Could we get away with a raid that is essentially one room. Soon followed by Rub Sanctum that taught blizz okay, maybe we actually have to make the dragon relevant and the raid worthwhile. Wrath isn't a good measuring stick for things, Wrath was a huge test bed as an expansion compared two the prior to and the ones to follow. Cata is the more formulated expansion really. Yes, it was a fail but I think its the true ground work for wow expansions. 3 raids, 5 patches, mild gating and then new expansion. I feel 5.3 being a large lore patch, bigger than what we saw with 5.2. But only time will tell.
I don't...how is this a thread? And how did this thread last this long?
Blizzard never announces far ahead of time which patch will coincide with which raid. We've known from their blatant implications that it will go "Release, no-raid, raid, no-raid, raid, ect." So...5.4 will be the next raid. Will it be SoO? I don't know. Depends on how quickly after 5.2 that 5.3 drops and what the 5.3 lore is.
I wouldn't like MoP to have just 3 tiers
I don't mind a 24 month x-pac cycle, where
month 0 - release, raid 1, initial 5-mans
month 2-3 - minor patch, lore
month 6 - raid 2
month 8-9 - minor patch, more 5-mans
month 12 - raid 3
month 14-15 minor patch, lore
month 18 - raid 4
month 20-22 - pre-patch next x-pac
month 24 - next x-pac, new raid, new 5 mans
The only concern is that it does seem to get a little formulaic. So maybe one of these minor patches could be a ToC-like mini-raid?
I'm not entirely opposed to the notion of Onyxia style encounters, as long as they are not endgame.
I don't think there will be a whole tier between 5.2 and SoO, since that will make MoP the longest expansion yet as it would have to be at least 2 years 4 months or something in that case. However it's very likely that SoO isn't the only raid instance of its tier since it might be hard to fill it with 10+ bosses and they'll probably just make two different raid instances.
The most likely thing is SoO to be out in September or so, making Q2 2014 a likely release time for the next expansion.
Vanilla lasted 2 years 2 months with the last tier being released about 7 months before TBC.
TBC lasted 1 year 10 months with the last tier being released 8 months before Wrath.
Wrath lasted 2 years 1 month with the last tier being released 12 months before Catalcysm (6 months if you count Halion).
Cataclysm lasted 1 year 9 months with the last tier coming out 10 months before MoP.
Blizzard have been hinting at quicker expansions and Q2 2014 would be 1 year 9 months which kinda adds up to me.
Announce Interrupts: Announces in chat when you interrupt a spell.
Tol Barad Reminder: Reminds you to queue for Tol Barad by printing a message when the battle is approaching.
EasyLogger: Turns on /combatlog inside raid instances, and off outside.
Simple class resource bars: Paladin Rogue Shaman Monk Priest
5.3 Will contain a load of dungeons with a new unannounced feature (something with scaling characters/gear for certain stuff).
5.4 Will be Siege. However it's not known if it's going to be the final tier, they might introduce a filler they said if they feel 6.0 would drag on.
We'll have to see.
Indeed I am hoping 5.3 will be a lore patch with a side of revamped old dungeons as a second challenge mode tier.
Cata was supposed to be out sooner, was out over 2 years after Wrath.
MoP was slated to be out sooner, was out 1 year 9 months after Cata.
Draw that further and we're not talking about Spring 2014, we're talking about summer at best. And I still suspect next expansion will be 10 levels, which will push launch back further.
5.3 is going to be a lore patch like 5.1
5.4 won't be SoO
5.4 is probably going to be coming out some time around Sept/Oct. That gives 5.5 (another lore patch) some time around Christmas, maybe New Years, and we'll finish with 5.6 sometime around March/April.
We'll be in SoO for 6 months (approx) and then new Expansion will touch down around Oct/Nov 2014.
We might see a 5.7 for a conclusion to MoP - it would be a lore patch that finishes this expansion and introduces the setting for the next one.
After that the game will enter alpha testing for 3-5 months, then there will be a press event near the end of that. Then comes 5-7 months of beta testing.
At a ballpark we're talking 8-12 months between reveal and launch. Which in a best case scenario (Aug. reveal, 8 months testing) is April. Realistically we're talking July - October.
Blizz wants tiers to last about 6 months. So t14 ends in march, t15 in September. And then comes decision time. 10-months of SoO, or 5 months of a "filler" tier and 5 months of SoO.
As for the filler being related to the next expansion, I doubt that. Not only did Blizz peg SoO as the last raid in MoP, but they would likely want to avoid another situation like BC where the set up villain (Illidan) was upstaged by someone in a late-game filler raid (Kil'jaedan).