Because one of them is dead and the other is not.
Guess who people want.
Because one of them is dead and the other is not.
Guess who people want.
Am I the only one who thinks the title and the OP don't fit together?
Felt pointless to bring it up since people were already frenziedly debating, but yeah the title is a fully valid question. It just seems to be the inverse of what the OP was actually asking, seems.
Remember kids, it's ok to be bat shit mental if you believe what you're doing is right. It also helps to build many large statues of yourself.
Sylvanas saw her people wiped by Arthas. She has been killed by him and ressurected to serve the killer and latter left to feel that pain and sorrow forever.
And what Jaina got comparing to it? Ah yeah few alliance soldiers killed on an island which placed near whole continent belonging to an enemy. Surprise.
Answering all of these in order
1) Death by Shark: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/torture Still quicker than say testing out plagues om someone or say burying them up to their heads in fecal matter and giving a Horde Character the chance to bash their heads back into the ground http://www.wowhead.com/item=65667
2) Eviction: action by a landlord that compels a tenant to leave the premises (as by rendering the premises unfit for occupancy)
If a tenant refuses to leave you get the police.
3) Still does not change the fact that his ties to the Sunreavers let them get close to both the Iris and the Bell. The Horde was not discreet in this arrangement since every Horde got their own Thalen Mini Bomb after Theramore.
4) Proof maybe before blanket statements: Prior to Theramore everybody was busom buddies. Oh yeah, aren't the Forsaken still killing thr Kirin Tor in Silverpine? Small wonder.
5) I would bother posting more but it sounds like you only play one faction. If you have an Alliance alt it doesn't quest much. Both sides are being played here buddy. You can't tell me that the Sunreavers don't put the Kirin Tor or Dalaran before the Horde. Dalaran is still a slap on the wrist compared to what the Horde has done under Garrosh. Every questline I've seen the horde burn kill betray lie and murder everything in their path and people like you defend that behavior. Well now you see that same behavior reflected back at you and you cry. Well its cannon now and you can't do anything but sit back and finish the story.
All I can say is your sensitivity sickens me. Heres your shovel. http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=65667
Pretty much WoW in a nutshell.
Jaina betrays neutrality and helps Alliance maintain possession of the bell, then goes bat**** mental on the Sunreavers for breaking neutrality because they helped the Horde obtain the bell. It's like the writers can't remember what they've written for 8 seconds. Either that or they've decided that mental stability is just too uninteresting to have any of that in the game.
Wait, what? All I've heard is unanimous dissaproval of what Sylvanas has done except for her fanbois (I am one of those, long 'live' the banshee queen).
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Yeah the only difference here OP is Sylvanas is EXPECTED to be a manipulative evil bitch. (Kind of in her job description)
Jaina wasn't so much after being the 'keeper of the peace' for quite some time. This change in character just has people excited, that's all.
This is just a reaction fallout. Neither of them are looked on favorably for their actions, rash or calculated.
I have eaten all the popcorn, I left none for anyone else.
Simple answer to the OP. Sylvanus is a racial leader where Jaina is not.
when all else fails, read the STICKIES.
"anguish of body or mind" From your dictionary link. I'm refuting your claim that it didn't happen in Dalaran. "Now you see torture? Where?"
I made no mention of Horde using or not using torture.
Tell me again where murder and torture comes into play?
The Sunreavers had nothing to do with the Iris.
Tides of War: Kirin Tor send military aid to Theramore including Silver Covenant and Sunreaver forces before any attack happens.
Aethas represents the Sunreavers as a group. Aethas' faction tag has always been <Kirin Tor>. Aethas publicly denounces Garrosh on multiple occasions, approves military action against Garrosh, strongly believes the Blood Elves should withdraw from the Horde, worked his entire career to mend the relations between Quel'Thalas and Dalaran (after the Kirin Tor betrayed them in 3rd War), and supports Jaina's appointment to leader of the Council of Six. He clearly puts the Dalaran above all else.
Compare that to Vereesa, Jaina's right-hand mam during the Purge. Her faction tag has always been <Silver Covenant>. In Nowhere to Hide Vereesa says, "Show them the cost of their defiance. They now face the judgment of the Alliance, the Silver Covenant, and the Kirin Tor!" She puts the Alliance before the Kirin Tor and Dalaran.
Persecuting innocent people is wrong regardless of the scale.
So now you are admitting that the Alliance is doing these horrible things? I never said the Horde were saints. But you seem to enjoy the Alliance coming down to the Horde's level.
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Comparing atrocities isn't exactly the best way to convey moral superiority.
Aethas dropped Thalen like a sack of bricks after Theramore. The guy isn't a Sunreaver anymore, so whatever he does is on his own head now.3) Still does not change the fact that his ties to the Sunreavers let them get close to both the Iris and the Bell. The Horde was not discreet in this arrangement since every Horde got their own Thalen Mini Bomb after Theramore.
To be fair, Metzen did say that was a continuity error.4) Proof maybe before blanket statements: Prior to Theramore everybody was busom buddies. Oh yeah, aren't the Forsaken still killing thr Kirin Tor in Silverpine? Small wonder.
That's just the thing, though: you're given a very one-sided picture on Alliance. You port in, don't even hear your target out, and then begin a purge at the behest of an elf with a very large chip on her shoulder.5) I would bother posting more but it sounds like you only play one faction.
You're given a very different one as Horde, due in part to the players themselves being present at the events that led into this. It's made explicitly clear to us that Aethas Sunreaver wants nothing to do with Garrosh and his agenda, and that the Divine Bell mission is a discreet espionage task which the bare minimum of people (us, Fanlyr and like three "Sunreavers") are privy to.
It makes the entire faction being persecuted/thrown in jail/killed a lot easier to sympathize with if the evidence at hand points to them being innocent of the crime they're being accused of.
Detracting from the main point of the thread for a moment, I believe there is a rather large distinction between the Burning Legion's evil and the Old God's evil, and the darkness emanating from the Tirisfall Glades, given all the little easter eggs and hints, smells very much of Old God evil.
I'm not sure how to best explain it, but there is a pretty unique flavor to each of those major powers, and it's quite easy to tell them apart without even knowing the true source of an event.
Your persistence of vision does not come without great sacrifice. Let go of the tangible mass of your mind, it is only an illusion. There is no escape.. For the soul burns on everlasting encapsulated within infinite time. A thousand year journey at the blink of an eye... Humanity is dust..
It's not only how they do what they do, rather more difficult to explain, just a feeling that they each have their own uniqueness. Like biting into an apple and a pear with your eyes closed, you don't know the source immediately, but they each have their distinctive flavours.
Go spend an hour in Tirisfal Glades, fly around, check out all the landmarks and weird, creepy little things Blizzard have randomly placed around the zone - the ring of fearie dragons performing some ritual being one example. Totally does not taste like legion evil sitting under there.
Your persistence of vision does not come without great sacrifice. Let go of the tangible mass of your mind, it is only an illusion. There is no escape.. For the soul burns on everlasting encapsulated within infinite time. A thousand year journey at the blink of an eye... Humanity is dust..
Because people know, and expect Sylvanas to do something like that - she knows how to behave right. Jaina just out right looses it.
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The word you want to use is "have" not "of".
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