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  1. #201
    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    We could say the same to you. ALL of this on BOTH sides is full of ALOT of anecdotal evidence as far as rates go.
    No it isn't. Numerous studies substantiate the side that's not talking about "from my experience".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiili View Post
    How would that explain something? O_o
    It means you don't just get randomly raped in the middle of the street by someone you don't know. Of course that happens too, but it's not the majority
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiili View Post
    You just seem to not be willing to accept the fact there's sources that support it, why?
    Because the truth is harsh! Or he just wants to hate. I think in this case its a mix of both

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    The problem with rape cases is that it's often a case of "he says, she says".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiili View Post
    How would that explain something? O_o
    He clearly thinks that it isn't rape if you know the persons' name!

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    Quote Originally Posted by solvexx View Post
    That's bullshit.
    Close to 20% of women are not raped.
    That's true, 80% of women aren't according to what I just linked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atsawin26 View Post
    feminazi bitch-harpies.
    Hahaha, that produced some fucked up mental images.

    OnT: I wonder what the worldwide percentage would look like. Or was that it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by obdigore View Post
    He clearly thinks that it isn't rape if you know the persons' name!
    Everybody knows its called "surprise sex" :x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiili View Post
    You just seem to not be willing to accept the fact there's soruces that support it, why?
    I think because of 2 things.

    1 IF they are indeed real most men don;t want to admit it. Same reason most people don't want toa dmit that maybe just maybe some of the mass murderers are either just nuts or are people who snapped..REAL monsters are terrifying in the first case in the second it;s the idea that they might have it within themselves.

    2. Is that we haven;t seen the sources and statistics ARE kinda easy to bend to say what you want ESPECIALLY in cases like this.

    Now don't get me wrong i've known/know several women who were raped and i swear if i ahd the power and right those men would make scenes from gore porn look like my little pony just had a kid with carealot. But i'd rather keep even all massmurdering psychos in history on the street then have even one innocent person locked up in prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethes View Post
    It means you don't just get randomly raped in the middle of the street by someone you don't know. Of course that happens too, but it's not the majority
    In Sweden it's 32% where they have/have had a close relationship to the person. The incidence of the kind of rape where you get attacked on the street by someone you don't know is at 20%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    I think because of 2 things.

    1 IF they are indeed real most men don;t want to admit it. Same reason most people don't want toa dmit that maybe just maybe some of the mass murderers are either just nuts or are people who snapped..REAL monsters are terrifying in the first case in the second it;s the idea that they might have it within themselves.

    2. Is that we haven;t seen the sources and statistics ARE kinda easy to bend to say what you want ESPECIALLY in cases like this.

    Now don't get me wrong i've known/know several women who were raped and i swear if i ahd the power and right those men would make scenes from gore porn look like my little pony just had a kid with carealot. But i'd rather keep even all massmurdering psychos in history on the street then have even one innocent person locked up in prison.
    Do you have sources or statistics to bend to support your viewpoint that differ from what has already been brought to the thread? Or are you content arguing from ignorance and then talking about anecdotal evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    No it isn't. Numerous studies substantiate the side that's not talking about "from my experience".
    Heh yes and where is the paperwork on this? The actual studies? NOT a jpeg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrakk View Post
    Listening to the opinions and views of some of the men in this topic makes me ashamed to be a man.
    You should listen to humans in general. It's not just men that are idiots. It's everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disgustipated View Post
    Hahaha, that produced some fucked up mental images.

    OnT: I wonder what the worldwide percentage would look like. Or was that it?
    Cross cultural analysis says the rate of rape is mostly the same world wide, but for instance war zones or South Africa are worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrakk View Post
    Listening to the opinions and views of some of the men in this topic makes me ashamed to be a man.
    Being ashamed to be a man? I thought that was a standard for men these days : /

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    Heh yes and where is the paperwork on this? The actual studies? NOT a jpeg.
    I cited one only last page. And everytime we talk about rape I spam studies showing how false accusations are very rare.

    But as usual you ignored posts that inconveniences your obvious need to bash me.

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    Slightly off topic: In my opinion it seems the main issue here is some men (and even some women, I know I work with one at least), who can often be quite vocal are either unaware or ignorant of the facts regarding rape statistics.

    The fact is very few rapists are accused of rape (due to women being too scared of having to relive the situation or fear of not being believed) of those that are accused very few are arrested and even then very few of these are convicted, to add more to this already insulting statistic; of those convicted a tiny percentage are falsely accused, yet stories that meet this criteria are often the ones that grab the most attention in the media and are often cited in discussions such as these.

    I do find it very sad that people like Semaphore are persecuted for simply stating fact and quite frankly being incredibly fair, but sadly it's a far too familiar situation whenever someone decides to stand up and go against the status quo.

    The fact of the matter is when discussions like this happen, the point of the topic is that women being raped and or sexually assaulted by men is a large issue. Some statistics don't always make this issue obvious (for example only taking into account accusation reported to police) and some people (often men) can't help but cry out "Men can get raped too!" or "Some men were falsely accused!" both of these are true and are both very serious issues, but aren't part of this discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    Everybody knows its called "surprise sex" :x
    No, I'm just shocked that atleast one of my friend males is rapist and should be in jail. And second, that 20%+ of all women lives in lies and fear.

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    In direct response to the OP:

    I can't speak for everyone, but I can tell you what happened with me.

    My mom had a bad experience with 1 man who abused her as a young teenager. This man was a guy she was involved with for years that she trusted very much. The terrible things he did to her lead to a perpetual distrust of men that never went away. She drilled into my head constantly during my upbringing that all men, especially the ones I don't know, want to rape and kill me.

    She pounded this in so deep into my head. From the moment I was old enough to understand words.

    That I couldn't be alone in the vicinity of a man I don't know for YEARS. It took me literally 4 years to deprogram myself. Male teacher. Family friend. Friend of a friend. Professional helping me with whatever. Whatever it was, I felt so uncomfortable being near a man I don't know that even as an ADULT I needed supervision to feel safe. It was beyond ridiculous and it's taking me years move beyond it.

    I'll always be rather hesitant....but at least I'm not that bad anymore.

    As for other women? I can't say. I've not met any that were as bad as me.
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  20. #220
    Quote Originally Posted by Thrakk View Post
    Slightly off topic: In my opinion it seems the main issue here is some men (and even some women, I know I work with one at least), who can often be quite vocal are either unaware or ignorant of the facts regarding rape statistics.

    The fact is very few rapists are accused of rape (due to women being too scared of having to relive the situation or fear of not being believed) of those that are accused very few are arrested and even then very few of these are convicted, to add more to this already insulting statistic; of those convicted a tiny percentage are falsely accused, yet stories that meet this criteria are often the ones that grab the most attention in the media and are often cited in discussions such as these.

    I do find it very sad that people like Sephamore are persecuted for simply stating fact and quite frankly being incredibly fair, but sadly it's a far too familiar situation whenever someone decides to stand up and go against the status quo.

    The fact of the matter is when discussions like this happen, the point of the topic is that women being raped and or sexually assaulted by men is a large issue. Some statistics don't always make this issue obvious (for example only taking into account accusation reported to police) and some people (often men) can't help but cry out "Men can get raped too!" or "Some men were falsely accused!" both of these are true and are both very serious issues, but aren't part of this discussion.
    Well, only correction I would like to make is that it's not unreported cases of rape but potentially unreported cases of rape.

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