Okay, I'll make it slow and easy then :
We don't want mechanics that would force us to wield 2H INT weapon even if we get a "fistweaving-like" mechanics... (which means : healing techniques via melee abilities no more no less). At no instant whatsoever anyone intended to describe fistweaving in particular.
On topic : 2H mace really is iconic to paladin though, and my retribution would love to xmog this if I don't get the Polearm
Obvious problem i see is when ever i have the chance to melee i usually do so to regain mana, this wep will be too slow to really do that.
If you would read what I said, monks aren't 'forced' ( I think you kiddos are using this word wayyyyy to much in wow now ) into using a 2h weapon to maximize there niche healing, I use a 1h sha touched weapon with a fan and do just as much healing as the monk with the 2h staff sha touched weapon via melee healing.
I also dislike the idea of fistweaving and don't want it to be incorporated into the paladin rotation but that is a moot point when looking at 2H mace in 5.2. Any rotation changes would happen in 6.0 not 5.2. Separate discussion altogether.
Just because I post regarding different topics doesn't mean all of it has to be about you.
Last edited by nightfalls; 2013-02-13 at 05:36 PM.
You are thinking too much into this. If you don't care and aren't progressing go for it.
If you are progressing and want to be a viable healer then choose the one hander and shield. Spirit will always be better unless they change the way spirit functions or for some stupid reason you decide to reforge out of spirit. All this speculation is completely useless.
I would also argue that the hammer is 100% completely viable. You can equip it, benefit from all the stats, and put out good numbers. That makes you viable. An agility polearm is not viable. No benefit from the stats. The word you are looking for is Optimal. This is not an Optimal choice because there is better out there.
The only thing more "useless" then this speculation is your input. If you don't have anything constructive to post, then find something else to do with your time.
Im not arguing that you can or cannot equip it, im arguing that people are considering it a viable alternative to a one hander and an offhand, which its not. If you dont like that then why did you create the thread in the first place? Did you expect people to share your hard-on for a two-hander and that everyone would agree with you? Or that anyone with another opinion has no voice here? Sorry to burst your bubble, but this isn't your private forum.
Simple facts: The 900+ loss of spirit far outweighs any other cosmetic or spellpower increase that hammer provides. If you want to ignore that, fine. Its your choice, and its not a wrong choice, its simply not a viable raiding choice for a healer.
Again, it is a viable option. Not the most optimal option. You are misunderstanding the difference between the words. You can reforge all that crit, which would equate to roughly 400+ spirit. I created the thread to share my excitement, the stats, and the validity of the mace being used. By all means you can share your thoughts. Your previous post was condescending, that is why I only called you out. Everyone has their play styles that work for them. Even in progression guilds. I will personally pick it up to toy with and I promise you that I will remain top or close to (behind disc) in healing. I know my class well. I run with 14.3k spirit unbuffed 15.6k with flask and food and frankly, I am more then comfortable. With the passive spirit on the armor, I can only imagine us being near the 18k range. I'll check BiS soon and get back to you on that.
Fact of the matter is, it is a fun post. Sorry that you don't enjoy fun and refuse to try something new. I, on the other hand, am part of a progression guild and perform very well. All while playing how I enjoy.
Having to argue why I deserve both the 2H, 1H, AND shield and maintain all three pieces of gear, switching them in and out on a per-fight basis while priests just swap Glyph of Inner Fire (which, we're not off the hook, we'd still swap Glyph of DP) isn't anything that appeals to me. Leave this gear to the boomkins.