4 ranged weapons

[Corog]

4 weapon is a welcome change, might be able to get a non-lfr weapon in next tier then!
on another note, most other specs seems to have 4 weapons as well, so seems that its not only gonna be hunter weapons that ends up getting sharded.

[Grizzles]

Why do people say the crossbow looks best? Feels like the gun is the winner here. Even with the less than ideal secondaries, the larger agi and red socket w/ agi bonus is pretty attractive.

In current gear as BM, changing only the weapon, I have the gun simming slightly higher than the crossbow. Not sure how this will change w/ the rest of the heroic gear.

[klausistklaus]

To many weapons.
T14 was fine with 1normal/1sha touched but this time 4heroic weapons? Totally overkill and a waste of atleast 2slots for items.

Sadly this. Looking at shields: 3 tank shields + 2 healer shield on 14 bosses vs 1 tank shield and 1 healer shield on 16 during last tier. 36 weapons total over 14 bosses, that's just an insane amount - there are only 21 on 16 bosses in the current tier.

5.2 http://ptr.wowhead.com/items=2?filte...79;crs=3;crv=0
5.0+5.1 http://www.wowhead.com/items=2?filte...79;crs=3;crv=0

4 weapon is a welcome change, might be able to get a non-lfr weapon in next tier then!
on another note, most other specs seems to have 4 weapons as well, so seems that its not only gonna be hunter weapons that ends up getting sharded.

Most specs can choose from a wider variety of weapons. Spell caster can yield dagger/sword or dagger/mace + offhand or a staff (or twohanded mace for that matter) while only hunter can use ranged weapons. It's like having that spell-plate stuff dropping, only one specc (out of 33!) can use it. I'd love to see some sunmote-exchaneable drops again for items with limited usage (hello @ 3 agility dagger, sadly we run with 0 rogues and it's still no real option for shaman due to how their class works, monks can't even yield them).

[Xemik]

I think it's a common consensus that if you have the 517 Tao-ren that you'll most likely want to wait for the heroic weapons although I can see that being a bit of a pain since they drop off the later bosses and given the inevitable flip flop of stats on our gear. It should be interesting how it turns out though. I really like having more weapons because you see the same thing happen to other classes. There will always be a case of itemization and min/maxing but at least they have the other drops in case they have a month long dry spell of the one weapon they really want.

Or a "since released" dry spell. My guild still hasn't seen a single Taoren. From the 25 or the 10man groups >.>
So, in light of that horrid luck, I greatly welcome the next raid dropping this many ranged weapons.

[aHeeRo]

I mean its nice to see ill have options in the new raid as far as chances of actually getting a bow/gun/crossbow from 10man Raid drops, But with that being said 4 is a bit much. I could see 2 -3 at the most. Considering its only one raid this tier not 3. So like one from the first couple bosses then one off later bosses. Like how DS was, You got your 410 crossbow, killed Deathwing Heroic got your 416. IMO thats the best way for any raid tier, have some good stuff up front then the real goodies once you kill the last guy. Dragon Soul kinda sucked as far as encounters went, but i think they got the loot right.

[Gunba]

What I think people are probably missing is it really seems like there are 4 of everything, not just ranged weapons and not just weapons in general. The last boss has 47 different items. If you compare the number of ranged weapons in each tier to the number of strength weapons for instance, you will see that comparatively it should only be slightly easier to obtain a ranged weapon in 5.2.

[yakuz]

Guys, dont forget u can add Prismatic Sockets to this new weapons.. femaledwarf doesnt count that.

[thraton]

Considering I a guildie and myself have 10 kills (20 rolls) so far on lei-shei for our sha-touched weapons that have yet to drop, 4 weapons will do just fine.

Apparently I never should have stopped doing Terrace LFR for it, since I figured it would drop on normal any week now.

[Ril-gania]

given the size of the loot lists, i don't think that 4 ranged weapons are too many. some bosses can drop more than 20 different items. 10 man gearing is going to be a pain.

[Nemesis003]

Guys, dont forget u can add Prismatic Sockets to this new weapons.. femaledwarf doesnt count that.

no but you can add another 160 agi into the stats and it does the same thing. its still a loss for BM

[Striipes]

WTB ranged wep with crit+mastery, red socket with +60 Agil bonus please!

[Tehstool]

WTB ranged wep with crit+mastery, red socket with +60 Agil bonus please!

This and/or crit and hit/exp!

[Nemesis003]

This and/or crit and hit/exp!

would be nice... an i am tired of the best weapon being a gun...


i still think the x-bow might be the better weapon, you lose a small amount of agi but pick up all that crit. Hit/Exp are not going to be had to reforge into not with 1 trinket giving us half the expertise we need. Hell as is we might have too much of them.

i'm kinda liking that xbow the more i think about it. not to mention having 3 heroic weapons and only me and 1 other hunter in guild shouldn't make it hard to come by a solid ranged weapon.

[Windthorn]

Killed Lei Shi so many times on normal/lfr that I lost count. First heroic Lei Shi kill last night and boom the gun drops. Curious as to when it will be replaceable next tier? When heroic weapon drops?

[Tehstool]

Killed Lei Shi so many times on normal/lfr that I lost count. First heroic Lei Shi kill last night and boom the gun drops. Curious as to when it will be replaceable next tier? When heroic weapon drops?

Yes, 517 taoren beats out the normal weapons. You'll have to wait for H modes and then you'll have to wait for RNG.

[skitzy129]

no but you can add another 160 agi into the stats and it does the same thing. its still a loss for BM

Good. SV is where it's at anyway.

[Nemesis003]

i am wondering if the 80 agi on the gun is worth the inferior stats vs like the cross bow or Miracoran

[Woobels]

Is it confirmed that one of the weapons drops from trash (Miracoran I think) or was that changed?

My guild isn't too big on progression so we won't see HC Lei Shi before 5.2, and countless normal/lfr kill of her and she still doesn't to give, so I figured it'd be great if I could farm trash for something when 5.2 goes live.

[Esubane]

I'm really glad that they made a lot of weapons drop for us this tier, T14 was ridiculous, at least in 10 man.
Took me 3,5 months and 79 (!!!) rolls total to obtain ANY sort of epic ranged weapon, be it LFR, normal or heroic. My wrathion quest rewards sat in bank for ages (2 months for the gem, 3 weeks for the socket).

I really hope that some day they will make 2 regular items drop from token bosses (ie 1 token + 2 normal items) opposed to 1+1 as it's now because the RNG is ridiculous in 10-man with large loot tables. Half of the instance itemization won't ever drop in that patch for your typical 10-man clearing normal fairly quickly.

Having only 2 weapons for 16-boss T14 sucked hard, even 8-boss dragon soul had 3 weapons - a trash-drop gun, generic crossbow and vishanka which was on tidy 9-item loot table. There were tiers with even more weapons than upcoming T15, look at Ulduar - we had trash gun, a regular gun, a trash bow, regular bow and crossbow from Yogg-saron, all x2 because 25-man had different ilvl versions. In tier 14 we have SEVEN possible chest pieces on normal-grade!!!! (1. VP one, 2. stoneguards, 3. galleon, 4. vizjer zorlok, 5. the one in TES (i think from tsulong), 6. Tier piece, 7. crafted 496. Now speaking of overkill...yeah.