View Poll Results: Should Garrosh Kill Thrall?

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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by TaylorsaurusRex View Post
    This. One of the reasons A Song of Fire and Ice is such a great book series is the fact that anyone can die, regardless of how good, bad, or neutral they are. A story becomes much more compelling when none of the characters have plot armor.
    Of course, in that very same story-line, the author is killing off the characters, and mostly the beloved ones, in order to shock the audience as well as glue it to the series. 'Oh, but now that this character I love has died, how will that influence that faction which I really like?'
    Basically, excessive killing is pretty much poor development as well.

  2. #62
    Yes he should.. and then resurrect after three days and become our lord and savior. PRAISE THRALL, CAN I GET AN AMEN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Thrall is no more powerful then Malfurion, queen azshara pre demigod, and the lich king. Granted the Lk was killed off, but shouldnt Malfurion have to die too? Jaina is as powerful as thrall imo as well.
    Malfurion, Jaina, Thrall, there are so many powerful characters in the story its just poor logic. Hell, Thrall couldn't even hold his own against Jaina in tides of war, so by such logic she should be killed off to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    Of course, in that very same story-line, the author is killing off the characters, and mostly the beloved ones, in order to shock the audience as well as glue it to the series. 'Oh, but now that this character I love has died, how will that influence that faction which I really like?'
    Basically, excessive killing is pretty much poor development as well.
    Exactly. Killing off all major characters leaves the story with nothing to develop upon.

    Did killing Cairne and replacing him with Baine do anything? no, people don't even know who Baine is or care about his story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Malfurion, Jaina, Thrall, there are so many powerful characters in the story its just poor logic. Hell, Thrall couldn't even hold his own against Jaina in tides of war, so by such logic she should be killed off to.
    Yet he was the Chosen Shaman of Everything Good!!!1!!11.
    If he was just one fish in a large school, we'd be having a different conversation. But he isn't. He's pretty much the Chosen One.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    Yet he was the Chosen Shaman of Everything Good!!!1!!11.
    If he was just one fish in a large school, we'd be having a different conversation. But he isn't. He's pretty much the Chosen One.
    Oh if you want to talk about 'chosen one', you ever looked at Varian lately? Yeah, the guy with the massive chin used as the wolf gods avatar.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Hughes View Post
    Or just not replace them at all. Right now Thrall is to the Horde what Jaina used to be to the Alliance. A mediator. Someone who seeks a peaceful resolution (which goes against the them 'World of WARcraft')
    No, Thrall is a badass. Thrall took Deathwing's place as Earth Warden so he could fire a lazer that destroyed Deathwing. Thrall is the world shaman, responsible for uniting the orcs and breathing life into a Horde stronger than any before. Jaina mediates because she wants the safety of the Alliance. Thrall mediates because he's currently allowing the Alliance to live on his Azeroth.

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    Thrall shouldn't die. He is not even a marry sue. He barely helped save azeroth, and now hes superman? If Thrall has to die then everyone as powerful or more powerful has to die. Have fun killing Bimble Longberry Fruit vender next xpansion. I here shes a toughy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    Of course, in that very same story-line, the author is killing off the characters, and mostly the beloved ones, in order to shock the audience as well as glue it to the series. 'Oh, but now that this character I love has died, how will that influence that faction which I really like?'
    Basically, excessive killing is pretty much poor development as well.
    You're really just reiterating his point though. In real life, it doesn't matter how likable you are. You have just the same chance of tragedy falling on you as the unlikable ones.

    I understand that's not everyone's cup of tea, but understand protecting a character just for the sake that the reader likes them leads to its own slew of problems as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SherbertLand View Post
    No, Thrall is a badass. Thrall took Deathwing's place as Earth Warden so he could fire a lazer that destroyed Deathwing. Thrall is the world shaman, responsible for uniting the orcs and breathing life into a Horde stronger than any before. Jaina mediates because she wants the safety of the Alliance. Thrall mediates because he's currently allowing the Alliance to live on his Azeroth.

    I get it now. Thrall is the Chuck Noriss of Azeroth. Hes not THAT powerful, but everyone hates him now because people think hes a god.

  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    I get it now. Thrall is the Chuck Noriss of Azeroth. Hes not THAT powerful, but everyone hates him now because people think hes a god.
    Nobody hates Thrall. We all love our supreme God Emperor. Praise be to Thrall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SherbertLand View Post
    No, Thrall is a badass. Thrall took Deathwing's place as Earth Warden so he could fire a lazer that destroyed Deathwing. Thrall is the world shaman, responsible for uniting the orcs and breathing life into a Horde stronger than any before. Jaina mediates because she wants the safety of the Alliance. Thrall mediates because he's currently allowing the Alliance to live on his Azeroth.
    this is an example of where the community have a bad opinion of how events transpired regarding Thrall in cataclysm. you refer to him like he's some god like powerful being, and yet he is no more powerful then Malfurion or Jaina, who characters who are held with the alliance right now.

    If anything, the alliance has vastly more powerful leaders them then the horde has, so accusing Thrall of being to powerful? If you actully read Tides of War, you'd know that Jaina faught against Thrall, and he couldn't stand against her power, stopping her from destorying orgrimmar and keeping her held off at the same time, she could have killed him if not for Kelecgos coming into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    I get it now. Thrall is the Chuck Noriss of Azeroth. Hes not THAT powerful, but everyone hates him now because people think hes a god.
    Because people are morons and don't follow the story. They ride on the back of half baked opinions by trolls and think there clever when they don't even read the lore.

  12. #72
    The man just had a child! You people want to leave a poor child fatherless. We already see what that did to thrall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Oh if you want to talk about 'chosen one', you ever looked at Varian lately? Yeah, the guy with the massive chin used as the wolf gods avatar.
    Yeah a guy who got a boost in stamina and a bit faster totally compares to a guy who was chosen to save the entire world and held it together with some other shamans, who is totally this magical Warchief who is the only one to steer the Horde in the right direction blah blah blah.

    You're incredibly biased, it's actually sickening to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam the Wiser View Post
    The man just had a child! You people want to leave a poor child fatherless. We already see what that did to thrall.
    Because lessons aren't learned from the past by people unwilling to listen to them.

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    Leave thrall alone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JhanZ View Post
    Yeah a guy who got a boost in stamina and a bit faster totally compares to a guy who was chosen to save the entire world and held it together with some other shamans, who is totally this magical Warchief who is the only one to steer the Horde in the right direction blah blah blah.

    You're incredibly biased, it's actually sickening to watch.
    Its not biased, its fact of the matter, The alliance has with it the worlds most powerful sorceress, the worlds most powerful druid who's thousends of years old, the worlds most powerful prophet whos even older, and a defacto ruler whos the avatar of a god, and yet you think you make sense labeling Thrall as so powerful he should be killed off for that reason? Half the Dam Alliance Leaders Are Super Heroes, you Don't have an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JhanZ View Post
    Yeah a guy who got a boost in stamina and a bit faster totally compares to a guy who was chosen to save the entire world and held it together with some other shamans, who is totally this magical Warchief who is the only one to steer the Horde in the right direction blah blah blah.

    You're incredibly biased, it's actually sickening to watch.
    Thats just it.. there were other shamans as well including some very powerful ones who taught him. If you think Thrall needs to die for being the most powerful shaman then the most powerful character of every class needs to die as well. Garrosh Varian Jaina Malfurion Sylvanas (because she totally held off the Lich king right /sarcasm....) need to die. Lets kill everyone but the fruit venders. What a fantastic story and game we have now huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Its not biased, its fact of the matter, The alliance has with it the worlds most powerful sorceress, the worlds most powerful druid who's thousends of years old, the worlds most powerful prophet whos even older, and a defacto ruler whos the avatar of a god, and yet you think you make sense labeling Thrall as so powerful he should be killed off for that reason? Half the Dam Alliance Leaders Are Super Heroes, you Don't have an argument.

    Amen this exactly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Oh if you want to talk about 'chosen one', you ever looked at Varian lately? Yeah, the guy with the massive chin used as the wolf gods avatar.
    You completely missed my post about Thrall AND Varian earlier, didn't you?
    Varian/Lo'gosh was a mistake that needs to be dealt with ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Thats just it.. there were other shamans as well including some very powerful ones who taught him. If you think Thrall needs to die for being the most powerful shaman then the most powerful character of every class needs to die as well. Garrosh Varian Jaina Malfurion Sylvanas (because she totally held off the Lich king right /sarcasm....) need to die. Lets kill everyone but the fruit venders. What a fantastic story and game we have now huh?
    I'd actually be pretty happy to see them all thrown under the bus. Not because they're the most powerful characters, but because I think they're kinda ehhhh with their development.

    Sylvanas actually plays a role as antagonist and it's not her current plot so she shouldn't die- She should die when the camera is actually focused on her. Jaina is serving as an antagonist, but MoP's plot directly affects her, so her dying would be okay(provided it's well written etc blah blah blah).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stir View Post
    You completely missed my post about Thrall AND Varian earlier, didn't you?
    Varian/Lo'gosh was a mistake that needs to be dealt with ASAP.
    Why is that a bloody issue for you? This is a FANSTASY STORY, Characters with remarkable powers in a fantasy universe. The Writers of Warcraft are confessed comic book readers, and so many characters have comic book hero undertones.

    This isn't a mistake, its how the writers have it, you don't anything to stand on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    I'd actually be pretty happy to see them all thrown under the bus. Not because they're the most powerful characters, but because I think they're kinda ehhhh with their development.

    Sylvanas is pretty cool though, maybe she can live. Sylvanas kills worgen and doesnt afraid of anything
    Stop posting here then. Stop playing warcraft (or being one of those posters who doesn't play wow anymore but just hangs around threads for creeping sake), go read game of thrones, where characters die out all though it. If you get a jolly fro seeing major characters die then find a franchise that does that for you.

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