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  1. #101
    hm so he is "kinda Evil" for using bad methods while at the end he is doing it for the greater good, at least thats what i see in some comments. He is similar to Lelouch then if anyone seen Code Geass sacrifacing people and doing what is necessery to at the end save the world.

  2. #102
    You have to remember, as far as the player character's personal story is concerned, Wrathion is only giving these tasks to YOU, and not the millions of other players on both sides of the war.

    Wrathion is trying to end the war between the Alliance and Horde, and because of the deep hatreds between both, the only way to do that is support the side that he believes will win. Of course, that would be the Player character's side.

  3. #103
    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    Deathwing's also shithouse crazy. I wouldn't rely on him as a verifiable source for anything short of spontaneous recitals of Henry VIII.
    I suppose it could just be a paranoid delusion. Thrall was confused when Deathwing made this assertion. Or just that Thrall doesn't understand the power of the Aspects.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)

    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    I suppose it could just be a paranoid delusion. Thrall was confused when Deathwing made this assertion. Or just that Thrall doesn't understand the power of the Aspects.
    He notes that Ysera flat-out told him it could never happen, and of the Aspects Ysera isn't exactly known for her penchant for lying.
    The sheer fact that we have people being so asinine as to split hairs over the exact definition of content is a sign that there isn't any worth discussing for non-raiders.
    I think it's about time we stopped scapegoating each other and started demanding better from the devs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    I suppose it could just be a paranoid delusion. Thrall was confused when Deathwing made this assertion. Or just that Thrall doesn't understand the power of the Aspects.

    When you have evil voices going in your head for a big amount of time, you would be saying crazy stuff to! That line did confuse me though. Him acting as if he had this giant burden to bear. That...amused me. I didn't believe it though because why should I believe someone who wants to destroy the world.
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  6. #106
    Okay let's think logic, he's young, very young, he was just "born" and says something like "i want peace, my father was bad but il be good, btw go kill some A/H because i know what's best for you and if you do that il give you some legendary gems which is obviously that a young dragon like me with not that big powers can just craft....."
    Nope that's no logic, he is obviously EVIL, he might actually be an avatar of sargeras.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    No, he's clearly chaotic evil. He has no plans, he's just making Alliance and Horde kill eachother just because he can. Isn't that a scarier thought? I mean, he's clearly duplicitous and two faced telling you regardless of faction that yours has his full support, I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw his whelp form.
    Is it not possible that he fully supports both sides? That his priority is to save the Azeroth he has deemed as "fragile" from the great and powerful threat in the future he keeps alluding to?

    Both factions have the same fundamental goal: to protect Azeroth from total destruction. Although both the Horde and Alliance have varying agendas beyond this goal, they still share the common foundational goal of protecting the land they live in. It's clear that protecting Azeroth is priority #1 for both the Horde and Alliance, as shown by them focusing their individual efforts on killing Ragnaros, Illidan, Kael'thas, Kil'jaeden, Arthas, and Deathwing - and all the global threats in-between.

    Therefore, when Wrathion says he "fully supports" both the Horde and the Alliance, it most likely means he supports their fundamental goal of preserving Azeroth as a whole. Although this may be his intention - I think he understands (as previous posters have noted - and I completely agree) that key players on both sides need to be taken out before there is even a small chance for the Horde and Alliance to stand together to fight the oncoming massive threat.

    As it stands right now, if the Legion were to reinvade Azeroth at this very moment, I guarantee that Garrosh would make attempts to kill Varian and members of the Alliance in the battlefield as the Legion wipes both sides out.

    "Is trouble brewing?"

  8. #108
    If Wrathion really wanted to unite all of Azeroth, he could pull a Lelouch from Code Geass.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)

    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

  9. #109
    He's playing Trickster Mentor to the PCs. He's Neutral. On the other hand he would prefer not to die and the Legion, etc. would say otherwise. So he's arming us, testing us, slowly forcing the factions into a position where they can best defeat the Legion, etc.

    He doesn't want to destroy the Alliance/Horde. Why ever would he smash such lovely toys.

  10. #110
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    If Wrathion really wanted to unite all of Azeroth, he could pull a Lelouch from Code Geass.
    Awesome reference to a great anime! Can you clarify what you mean though? Lelouch sacrificed himself for the good of society, so not quite sure how that would tie in.

    "Is trouble brewing?"

  11. #111
    Quote Originally Posted by Fohawkz View Post
    Awesome reference to a great anime! Can you clarify what you mean though? Lelouch sacrificed himself for the good of society, so not quite sure how that would tie in.
    Playing both sides of the conflict to create unity. Being the aggressor everyone hates and the liberator everyone rallies behind.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    I'm determined to someday make Med'an awesome. (MickyNeilson)

    ´So.. sorry to bring this up but..you know that .."thing" (Med'an).. is that "thing" cannon still?
    ...as much have some have wished otherwise, yes. (Loreology)

  12. #112
    Quote Originally Posted by Fohawkz View Post
    Awesome reference to a great anime! Can you clarify what you mean though? Lelouch sacrificed himself for the good of society, so not quite sure how that would tie in.
    Let Wrathion save some babies (from both factions) and then lets sacriface him, will work just fine. Both ally and horde will be so touched we will get our pease

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Playing both sides of the conflict to create unity. Being the aggressor everyone hates and the liberator everyone rallies behind.
    He is playing both sides, if one were to assume at least one canon Horde Adventurer and Alliance Adventurer so all the ingame storylines can be resolved.
    The sheer fact that we have people being so asinine as to split hairs over the exact definition of content is a sign that there isn't any worth discussing for non-raiders.
    I think it's about time we stopped scapegoating each other and started demanding better from the devs.

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    Blizz said they made him to keep the black dragonflight around as villains after Deathwing died so yeah someday he's gonna be evil. Sadly.
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  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    If Wrathion really wanted to unite all of Azeroth, he could pull a Lelouch from Code Geass.
    Lelouch also had the added incentive to faking his death so no one would notice he was suddenly immortal.

    Highlight text for massive spoilers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    Blizz said they made him to keep the black dragonflight around as villains after Deathwing died so yeah someday he's gonna be evil. Sadly.
    Sabellian's still around to accomplish that in the event they keep Wrathion uncorrupted.
    The sheer fact that we have people being so asinine as to split hairs over the exact definition of content is a sign that there isn't any worth discussing for non-raiders.
    I think it's about time we stopped scapegoating each other and started demanding better from the devs.

  17. #117
    Quote Originally Posted by Skytotem View Post
    Blizz said they made him to keep the black dragonflight around as villains after Deathwing died so yeah someday he's gonna be evil. Sadly.
    You got a blue or something cause I've never heard this one. Like ever.

  18. #118
    Wrathion's main goal in 5.1 appears to be "unification". He point it out in Call of the Packmaster about Varian, both of the "kill the commander" quests mention he's impressed with how you've "cobbled together support" to defeat them.

    And while people may think "kill Horde/Alliance!" is evil and divisive, his purpose may be more akin to separating the wheat from the chaff to build both a stronger Horde and a stronger Alliance.

    And my guess is that when he orders the overthrow of Garrosh, it's because Garrosh is ultimately divisive, not unifying.

    He's trying to forge a weapon to defeat an enemy or enemies. Until we know what that enemy or enemies is*, we really can't make judgement as to whether he's Good or Evil.


    *Yes, yes, everyone thinks it's the Burning Legion. But what if it's the Titans?


  19. #119
    I'm sure a convo like this has come up before, the answer I liked the most from that one was, I don't think Wrathion is evil, but his version of a safe Azeroth could be very different to what we want, or something along those lines.

  20. #120
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    Playing both sides of the conflict to create unity. Being the aggressor everyone hates and the liberator everyone rallies behind.
    No need. Garrosh is already the aggressor.

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