Preparing for PvP In 5.2, Patch 5.2 PTR Notes Updated

[schizocaria]

I don't get the DK change with blood presence. So, if you switch from blood presence to the other presences, you'll retain the stamina buff? Is it for a limited time?

Or is it just another way of saying that all presences now gives a stamina buff?

[netherspite]

Cant believe frost finally gets viable in PvE.
So glad for these changes, hope they wont nerf it back before release.

[TrollShaman]

Cant believe frost finally gets viable in PvE.

They've always been viable, really. They're just outclassed by Fire (in higher gear level) and Arcane.

[Ealyssa]

I don't get the DK change with blood presence. So, if you switch from blood presence to the other presences, you'll retain the stamina buff? Is it for a limited time?

Or is it just another way of saying that all presences now gives a stamina buff?

It clearly state you maintain health percentage... What's hard to understand ?

That means, if you are at 100% life in frost presence(FP) and switch to blood presence(BP), you will be at 100% life in BP (on live you will stay at FP life ammount while your bar grow bigger). Same on the opposite, if you are at 50% health in BP and switch to FP, you will loose health (because 50% of BP health is more than 50% FP health).

On live :

349000/349000 in FP -> switch to BP -> 349000/436250 in BP

187000/436250 in BP -> switch to FP -> 187000/349000 in FP

In 5.2 :

349000/349000 in FP -> switch to BP -> 436250/436250 in BP

187000/436250 in BP -> switch to FP -> 149600/349000 in FP

[netherspite]

They've always been viable, really. They're just outclassed by Fire (in higher gear level) and Arcane.

as well as by locks, rogues... well, half of dps classes.

i am hardly reaching #6-8 in recount as frost on our heroic bosses tries. i am leading the raid though. but i still think frost is underperforming on live.
with these changes from latest 2 news i believe frost will get 5-10% dps boost and will become more competitive.

[asym]

If you had thought a little about it, you would have realized the obvious. New 5.2 pvp gears > 5.1 PVP gears + upgrade. If they had CP carry over, people could ideally stack as much CP as they can and buy a whole set of new gears that are better than current gears come patch day. That is not the same with VP. New gears are blocked by reputation, in addition with a max of 3k VP. People would mostly use the VP that are carried over to purchase gears the current VP gears, but with a much reduced cost. They had to carry over VP since the 5.0/5.1 gears still require VP in 5.2, while for PVP, the Malv will be available with honor. Again, if CP had carried over, it would screw up everyone that did not stack CP since they will be in for a gear disadvantage.

hey thanks so much for explaining all this to me! I forgot that raiders dont acrue VP while grinding rep and that getting top tier raid gear means you basically have to wait your turn for inevitable drops. my bad.

[Moradim]

mage buffs! just what they sorely needed in pvp.