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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiry View Post
    It was my impression that the mobs that are quest related give rep until revered. I could be wrong.
    what quest? we are talking about the new shado pan assault fraction, and you will only be able to gain rep from The new raid instance boss kills will give rep, but was wondering if trash did as well, though i doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiry View Post
    It was my impression that the mobs that are quest related give rep until revered. I could be wrong.
    The quests only give Kirin Tor Assault rep, not Shado-Pan Assault rep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stX3 View Post
    what quest? we are talking about the new shado pan assault fraction, and you will only be able to gain rep from The new raid instance boss kills will give rep, but was wondering if trash did as well, though i doubt it.
    When I was PTR LFR the other weekend (first quarter), each trash mob increased the Shado Pan Assault reputation by 30 at neutral (each boss 300 I guess) which led to a discussion in the raid chat about trash farming.
    But this was one week ago, so it might be patched or capped.
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    Thanks smaikii exactly the answer i was looking for, and ye my concern when i first raised the question was indeed trash farming.

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    There's a blue somewhere saying that Trash give reputation till friendly.
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    1st week: 3000-1250 neutral neck +1000
    2nd week: 2750 -1250 friendly ring +1000= 2500 (and you can still buy the trinket or bracers) bracers=1250 trinket=1750
    3rd week: 750+1000 -1250 (trinket or bracers) = 500


    you can start with 2500 points and get all 4 items in the 2nd hardmode id
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    In more think that you can reach Friendly largely before the start of the 2nd week. it's more:
    week 1 : 3000 -1250 (neck) - 1250 (ring) + 1000 = 1500
    week 2 : 1500 +1000 - 1750 (trinket) = 750
    week 3 : 750 + 1000 - 1750 (bracer) = 0

    They are at 1750, not 1650 !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathyiel View Post
    In more think that you can reach Friendly largely before the start of the 2nd week. it's more:
    week 1 : 3000 -1250 (neck) - 1250 (ring) + 1000 = 1500
    week 2 : 1500 +1000 - 1750 (trinket) = 750
    week 3 : 750 + 1000 - 1750 (bracer) = 0

    They are at 1750, not 1650 !!!
    Am kinda thinking at least as fire and frost, people might wanna skip the neck if we get to friendly the first week, so you can buy both the trinket and the ring the first week.. followed by bracers or neck the next..

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    For Frost, it will be :
    1- Trinket
    2- Ring
    3- Wrist/Neck
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    Gear and item upgrades will vary person to person but it's pretty much guaranteed to be the trinket and something else.

    Also bracers, neck and ring are all 1250 VP. Only the trinket is 1750 from the neutral/friendly gear. Not much of a difference but it means people who are capped at 2500 will still be able to get all 4 pieces of gear in 3 weeks after 5.2's release.

    Here's a little chart I made showing roughly what gear drops from each boss:
    ToT Mage Gear Distribution
    I find it quite useful so maybe someone else will too
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    Ok, so I just skimmed this post. You could get a farm group and do trash to friendly without overcapping valor?

    In that case, you could definitely hit friendly and buy the trinket and ring first week with bracer second?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nish77 View Post
    Ok, so I just skimmed this post. You could get a farm group and do trash to friendly without overcapping valor?

    In that case, you could definitely hit friendly and buy the trinket and ring first week with bracer second?

    Thanks in advance,

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    Yes. There's only so much trash before the first boss so I don't know how long it would take since the 5 instances per hour would be limiting. Make sure everyone has +15% guild banners since they will probably work.

    I'm not sure if valor you earn at 3k will count towards your cap that week. I hope not. Bosses do give 375 rep each (guild perk + 15% banner).
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    Yes, you overcap so you don't want to try and kill something that gives valor when you have 3k.

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    that is wrong. you cannot overcap. you can still get your full 1k after finishing the raid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtmzac View Post
    Yes. There's only so much trash before the first boss so I don't know how long it would take since the 5 instances per hour would be limiting. Make sure everyone has +15% guild banners since they will probably work.

    I'm not sure if valor you earn at 3k will count towards your cap that week. I hope not. Bosses do give 375 rep each (guild perk + 15% banner).
    doesnt trash drop epic 522 weapon??? well at least for str users i heard..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulstrike View Post
    doesnt trash drop epic 522 weapon??? well at least for str users i heard..........
    I think an agility dagger drops as well. If you compare the wowhead ptr to the dungeon journal there's a few things missing which are probably trash drops.

    Off the top of my head I think there's a bracer we can use that drops from trash.
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    its been "tsulong" i have yet to see a sha touch heroic weapon...... T.T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulstrike View Post
    its been "tsulong" i have yet to see a sha touch heroic weapon...... T.T
    We have a staff and a wand that drop from horridon. We should get weapons quite easily in ToT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ralikonik View Post
    that is wrong. you cannot overcap. you can still get your full 1k after finishing the raid.

    Ah, you're correct. I'm sorry. I had thought that I capped earlier (I have 3000) and was getting valor credited during this week but it's stopped at 300.

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