We downed Heroic Elite Protectors 4 weeks ago. 3 attempts and it was dead. The encounter is actually easier than heroic protectors since the nerf. A lot easier actually. We ended up trying it with more melee this time. Six to be exact, and it was still a joke.
Palmz - Warlock
Heroic Elite protectors isn't even that difficult any-more and doesn't really force you to stack range, although it helps. I would expect a good number of guilds would of killed it by now.
As for waterspout, sure, I'll agree that 10-man groups have more room which makes it a bit easier to avoid the mechanic. However, 10-mans have less raid cool-downs to use and each individual player in a 10-man has to play near perfect the entire fight to get a kill. Not to mention, every player (almost) in a 10-man environment is required to take on multiple responsibilities versus a 25-man where, for example a Hunter friend of mine, has to do nothing but dps the boss the entire time and do nothing else.
Arguing that 10-man and 25-man both have their strengths and weaknesses is completely valid. Making 10-mans out to be the easy-mode version of raiding that requires very little skill, however, is completely incorrect.
Last edited by Muk; 2013-02-17 at 09:30 AM.
I guess that's just horrible horrible horrible HORRIBLE luck.
OT: Heroic Elite on 25man is stupidly easy if your raid composition isn't completely retarded (10+ melee for example).
We got it down a month ago with 6 melee, berserk timer no-where in sight. Healing/Raid cds was our issue, not dps.
It's easier than Sha by a mile.
believe it or not, if you have enough raid dps and your healers don't suck elite protectors heroic is a lot easier than "normal" heroic in 25m.