Grey Wind Mistcloak
and I totally forgot about those 600 ilvl cloaks.
If you go to femaledwarf.com and look for dps profiles over 190k, you'll find my BiS configs for BM, MM, and SV. I've included ones with and without Rune of Reorigination for BM. Without Rune, the profiles tend to drop by ~5k dps, but Rune is still a bit of an unknown at this point. We won't know how close the simulators have modeled it until after hunters are gearing BiS with the trinket to see how stacking haste is really affecting it.
Just to clarify -
There's two kinds of "random" epics this tier.
One is the ones that are shared on all boss loot tables (Like Miracoran, Invocation of the dawn, and Zeeg's ancient Kegsmasher). These can be aquired through coins, boss drops, and on all possible item levels EXCEPT LFR (as far as I can tell).
Then there's a second kind - the trash epics. These involve the necklases for all the specs (terra cotta archer, terra cotta mender, terra cotta vanquisher, etc).
These can be aquired as looking for raid (through goodie bags), normal (through trash), and thunderforged (through trash, with the percentage relative to what it should be - EG, 10% of the necks dropping will be TF in 10 man).
As trash cannot be heroic, the neck can thus not be obtained on heroic - only as its 528 TF version.
It is also not aviable from BMAH - these are the +535 item level items you can buy:
Essentially, from ToT, all:
This means that the BiS necklase SHOULD be the 541 thunderforged one from Mag. And the difference between TF terra cotta and normal heroic Quadra-head brooch is -62 agil, and -30 secondary stats. While haste/crit is preferably to hit/mastery, 62 agil is *alot*. And for most people, you won't ever see the TF terra cotta necklase, anyway - it'll be the normal one (which is even further away). And the TF brooch is so far ahead it's silly .
for those of us who will probably never get to do the heroics would our normal tf bis list look similar to the one on page 8 as just the normal tf gear?
Where can I read more about this differentiation? I've routinely received drops that were not in Wowhead (when 5.2 came out, we had several hunter items drop for us in raids that would not link properly to wowhead because they were unrepresented up to that point), so the item not being in the database doesn't really give me pause.
Is there a blue post or something more tangible that I can read more about this distinction involving the necklaces? I really appreciate the information and hadn't heard about this previously.
Since Rune has been hotfixed, has it process alot better and increase more dps? Anyone knows?
lfr bis and normal bis the same as the ones listed here?
err i linked wrong.. it's Wastewalker's Sandblasted Drape.. H TF.. would pinion still be better ? And the only reason i'm hesitant about voice is that insane amount of hit.. which I take in place of straight crit.. oh also i have beady eye mastery (522).. is that in any way an upgrade from powderburn (valor) ? i lose a lot of crit with those new pieces..
I get that on low-RPPM trinkets like juju that the bad luck protection doesn't even kick in til ~2mins, based on your haste, however it then stacks up so slowly you dont get a guaranteed proc until ~5:50 - some fights are over by that point.
They need to force the RPPM bad luck protection to guarantee a proc once you've gone ~150% over the average procrate, but maybe add a small ICD so it can't proc back to back quite as much (30-35s?), and DEFINITELY make them so they cant overwrite themselves. Last week i had 5 juju procs during bloodlust, overwriting itself every 3-6seconds - utter waste.
I guess this was to be expected though, 8 years using the old system and RPPM is still very much in it's infancy.
I quite like the system, don't get me wrong, it just seems to work s a lot better on higher procrate effects like meta / setbonuses. The 0.5 RPPM stuff's protection doesn't ramp up fast enough that's all. Hopefully something that will be ironed out for next tier
Last edited by Dela2k10; 2013-04-19 at 11:33 AM.
ohh I thought that I was only one with worst trinket proc luck ever lol. My trinkets uptimes has never reached over 10% on lei shen.
This is exactly why I'm saying the haste trinket is better than juju. I had data, but I just couldn't find it again when I posted yet this re-affirms it from that log above. The uptime for 1-2 stacks is generally 95-100% and 5 stacks is around 20-30% of the fight. And man that trinket goes nuts with focus fire + rapid + lust + trinket proc (usually start of fight scenario). And if we are correct about haste increasing RPPM chance, then the bloodlust trinket will help 2 set, meta and slightly 4 set.
Last edited by Libertarian; 2013-04-19 at 05:47 PM.
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What do you mean if we are correct? Blizzard said that haste increases the real ppm rate and told us exactly how it increased the rate. It is linear, it's
Real PPM rate * (1 + haste % [i.e 1 + 30% = 1.30])