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  1. #21
    Well, neck, bracers and ring are pieces with the lowest statweigth. Then there is the trinket, that may or not be good for you. The numbers are easy, you get a +8 ilvl with 1500 valor, and you get a +x ilvl with 1250 on a low stat weight slot after 5.2. A +13 ilvl on a ring or neck may or may not be better than a +8 ilvl on a chest or helm.

    Then again, you can replace chest or helm with normal pieces that same week, while the 522 will have to wait for heroic drops. I will go with 3000, or 2750/2500, depends on which week it drops.

  2. #22
    As others have said, there's really not much incentive to spend Valor now rather than hoarding it for 5.2. If you're still planning on upgrading items though, these are the general choices:

    1. Heroic Elite Protector gear (524 fully upgraded)
    2. Normal Sha-touched or stronger weapons.
    3. DMC and other good trinkets
    4. That rare item that is nearly as good as the 522 Valor gear, such as a double upgraded spirit/mastery neck from Heroic Spirit Kings for Resto Druids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbad View Post
    neutral=neck
    friendly=ring, bracer, trinket
    honored=cloak,legs,hands

    I plan to get the ring and bracers first week (2500 vp total) so at least 1500 vp for me, still want to upgrade the trinket I just got and the neck & cloak lack crit for me as warrior. Trash up to 2999/3000 friendly 1 boss kill for friendly and I expect 12-20 bosskills for honored. The trinket is nice too but not as good as the raiddrops so maybe if 5.2 is a week later I save some more vp else I just get it if the other trinkets don't drop.
    You mean Neutral?

  3. #23
    i'm gonna go with around 2.5-2.7k on my main

  4. #24
    Ill be going into the next patch with 3000 VP since they are not getting reset this time.

  5. #25
    I'm going to upgrade my gear as much as possible since it wont be possible after patch.
    Dunno why it seems like I'm the only one thinking this haha.
    Its not like i NEED the neck the first week, it will be normals anyway.
    Thats from a heroic raider though so my gear is pretty good.

  6. #26
    Depends, but in any case you should have somewhere between 2k and 3k.
    If the 522 neck is an upgrade go for 3k, if it's not go for less than 3k since you'll want to get to friendly first and that could mean killing bosses. (Edit : it's always going to be an upgrade but if you already have a fully upgraded heroic neck with an ilvl of 517, spending 1250 VP for 5 ilvl is NOT worth it)

    Since we still don't know when the patch is going to hit it would be wiser to just keep all VP for now and spend them 1 upgrade by 1 upgrade to not overcap.
    Last edited by Recom; 2013-02-17 at 03:15 AM.

  7. #27
    On the PTR right now, there is one item you can buy at neutral (neck) for 1250 VP. There are 3 more items you can buy at Friendly; bracers, ring, and a trinket, and I think they are 1250/1250/1750 respectively but that info is on this site somewhere so don't quote me on that. I'm still not sure if there is confirmation on how easily reaching friendly is going to be and that depends on how much rep bosses give on live and if trash gives rep as well prior to friendly. Different blues say different things, one guy said one boss kill would make you friendly but I believe he meant neutral as you need to kill one thing that gives rep to get neutral, and last I knew bosses awarded 300 rep each on PTR.

    Case in point, if trash indeed does not give any rep at all prior to friendly, then you would need to kill at least 10 bosses the first week to buy anything but the neck, which would require normal mode as LFR will be gated and not all parts will be out when 5.2 goes live.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    As others have said, there's really not much incentive to spend Valor now rather than hoarding it for 5.2. If you're still planning on upgrading items though, these are the general choices:

    1. Heroic Elite Protector gear (524 fully upgraded)
    2. Normal Sha-touched or stronger weapons.
    3. DMC and other good trinkets
    4. That rare item that is nearly as good as the 522 Valor gear, such as a double upgraded spirit/mastery neck from Heroic Spirit Kings for Resto Druids.
    I would add 5/5 Heroic t14 set pieces to that list, if it is available to you. Being able to easily transition into 2t14+2t15+1 well itemised offset piece can be a huge boon if your set bonuses are good.
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  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Celoric View Post
    I'm going to upgrade my gear as much as possible since it wont be possible after patch.
    Dunno why it seems like I'm the only one thinking this haha.
    Its not like i NEED the neck the first week, it will be normals anyway.
    Thats from a heroic raider though so my gear is pretty good.
    As said, you can pay 1500 to get a 509 piece to 517, or you can pay 1250 to move a 509 to 522. If you have already upgraded neck, rings and bracers to 517, or more if you have some heroic elite, you are better off saving VP only for the trinket. If you hadn't (most people won't have, since neck, rings and bracers are the worst pieces to upgrade), you are better off saving as much as possible.

  10. #30
    Is it confirmed whether they are bringing item upgrades back in 5.3 or not?

  11. #31
    Will hopefully manage to get 3k (March 13th). Then again, I won't hit friendly untill LFR opens.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Recom View Post
    If the 522 neck is an upgrade go for 3k, if it's not go for less than 3k since you'll want to get to friendly first and that could mean killing bosses.
    If you're at 3k valors (hardcap) then doing activities that would otherwise get you valors will not count towards your weekly cap. At least that was the case for dailies, I assume it's the same for any valor reward origin.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Espada View Post
    As said, you can pay 1500 to get a 509 piece to 517, or you can pay 1250 to move a 509 to 522. If you have already upgraded neck, rings and bracers to 517, or more if you have some heroic elite, you are better off saving VP only for the trinket. If you hadn't (most people won't have, since neck, rings and bracers are the worst pieces to upgrade), you are better off saving as much as possible.
    Thats not the point, gear upgrades wont be available after 5.2 comes out. At worst you get these neck trinket ring pieces a few weeks after. The first week of raiding will be normals anyway so the gear wont be needed to progress. So a few weeks after 5.2 comes out, you'll be likely be more geared if you spent all your VPts into upgrading while its available than not.

    Also, since upgrading wont be available, what will we be able to do with all these extra VPts once we got these 3 pieces?

  14. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by Celoric View Post
    Also, since upgrading wont be available, what will we be able to do with all these extra VPts once we got these 3 pieces?
    Get a 4th piece and if you want to go completely crazy even a 5th Oo.

    All sillyness aside you're most likely to replace 517 gear in a few weeks depending on your luck so I don't see upgrading to be better in the long run, with the exceptions like weapon, trinket, tier others already stated before.

  15. #35
    Go in with 3k valor points, you can immediately buy a 522 piece at neutral and one boss later you can purchase a 522 piece at friendly!

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Celoric View Post
    Thats not the point, gear upgrades wont be available after 5.2 comes out. At worst you get these neck trinket ring pieces a few weeks after. The first week of raiding will be normals anyway so the gear wont be needed to progress. So a few weeks after 5.2 comes out, you'll be likely be more geared if you spent all your VPts into upgrading while its available than not.

    Also, since upgrading wont be available, what will we be able to do with all these extra VPts once we got these 3 pieces?
    As far as I remember, there are VP 522 pieces for every slot, except weapons, boots and helms. You will have tons of things to expend those extra VPs, if you reach a point when you can't buy anything, is beacuse you have replaced everything with ToT normal or heroic gear. So the upgraded 5.0 pieces are gone too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryk View Post
    Go in with 3k valor points, you can immediately buy a 522 piece at neutral and one boss later you can purchase a 522 piece at friendly!
    Blindly going in without knowing what is offered is a bad idea. Me personally? I'm going in with 1500 Vp. The normal mode clear will let me buy neck + ring then 1-2 lockouts later I can purchase cloak. I have no idea why anyone would be dumb enough to drop a tier set for non tier so clearly those aren't really an option. Some of the trinkets are bad? 1600 expertise? bustin my balls blizz...

  18. #38
    3000. 522 spirit crit neck (i r boomkin, nom nom) trinket from being friendly (int + haste proc)

  19. #39
    3000 vp and I'm buying the neck as soon as 5.2 drops then next week I'll have 2750 vp to spend on the vp ring/bracers for 2500 vp leaving me with 250 vp. 3 522 items is probably what you want to shoot for imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thireyn View Post
    Is it confirmed whether they are bringing item upgrades back in 5.3 or not?
    100% confirmed, no. But it's pretty sure by blizzard themselves (for PVE at least, blizzard words again).

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