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    Ra'den has 30 attempts per week limit

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    For the hardcorest of Hardcore...weren't people complaining shit was "too easy"?
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    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    Hooray for artificially extending the length of the tier!

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    People complain about bosses dying in the first week.
    Now they get to complain about them not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RunItsTheFuz View Post
    Hooray for artificially extending the length of the tier!
    Because an optional boss that only like...0,0001% will see is "artificially extending the tier"
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    One cause is a cognitive bias called projection bias. Essentially living inside your own head your entire life makes it exceedingly difficult to understand how others do not also live your same life, think your same thoughts, and hold your same beliefs. In many cases it's quite frustrating to try to empathize and understand why you yourself may not be the center of the universe, which generally results in one 'acting out' in various ways.
    So, in short: the internet.

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    Wrath had 2 of those bosses with limited attempts and they were both enjoyed by most of the community, I see no reason why the shouldn't introduce another one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Because an optional boss that only like...0,0001% will see is "artificially extending the tier"
    No, not letting people play the game as much as they want to is artificially extending the tier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Because an optional boss that only like...0,0001% will see is "artificially extending the tier"
    No crap, if it takes you more than 30 attempts I think its a good time to take a breather and idk watch a movie go outside something other than sit trying a boss for the 31st time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanous View Post
    No crap, if it takes you more than 30 attempts I think its a good time to take a breather and idk watch a movie go outside something other than sit trying a boss for the 31st time.
    Most heroic modes take more than 30 pulls for guilds on first kill. /newsflash.

    Also I like this. At least it's better than just having one hour per reset like on Algalon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swampfox2223 View Post
    Wrath had 2 of those bosses with limited attempts and they were both enjoyed by most of the community, I see no reason why the shouldn't introduce another one.
    No, Algalon was bugged and you couldnt engage him anymore after the first pull. We already had feedback on limited attempt bosses, and it was mostly negative.
    Most people do not realize the talent and skill it requires to be in a top guild. Many of you think its only about time invested, but that couldn't be further from the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Because an optional boss that only like...0,0001% will see is "artificially extending the tier"
    For those that have done 12Hc bosses and want to finish the tier as quickly as possible, this means you can't finish it as fast as you'd be able to if you just had unlimited attempts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanous View Post
    No crap, if it takes you more than 30 attempts I think its a good time to take a breather and idk watch a movie go outside something other than sit trying a boss for the 31st time.
    You've never done early heroic progression, I see...

    Quote Originally Posted by Miraclous View Post
    For those that have done 12Hc bosses and want to finish the tier as quickly as possible, this means you can't finish it as fast as you'd be able to if you just had unlimited attempts.
    Guilds like Blood Legion, who could effectively use each of their alts for an attempt won't mind so much... Guilds with less time are going to get screwed.

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    Get your alt raids ready?


    On a more serious note: I don't really mind this kind of stuff too much, 30 pulls can be 2 full raid nights which is quite a lot, as long as there isn't anything related to doing it within X amount of pulls (ToC style). In general disturbing progress like this too much isn't good, but blizzard chose a "when it feels right" approach, which I guess this fits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanous View Post
    No crap, if it takes you more than 30 attempts I think its a good time to take a breather and idk watch a movie go outside something other than sit trying a boss for the 31st time.
    Top guilds sometimes do over 100 tries on heroic bosses.

    Not on all of them of course, but some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    For the hardcorest of Hardcore...weren't people complaining shit was "too easy"?
    Attempts don't make anything harder though, it just means instead of actually playing the game you get to wait around for cooldowns to come back up and discuss tactics so you don't waste your weeks attempts, its really not all that fun

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    If I remember heroic putricide especially, top end guilds would first use the 30 attempts on numerous alt groups to learn the fight before actually doing it with their "mains".

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    Quote Originally Posted by UcanDoSht View Post
    No, Algalon was bugged and you couldnt engage him anymore after the first pull. We already had feedback on limited attempt bosses, and it was mostly negative.
    I dunno about bugs, but there was a 1 hour timer per reset until they removed it some time later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixuzcc View Post
    Top guilds sometimes do over 100 tries on heroic bosses.

    Not on all of them of course, but some.
    Didn't STARS say they had like 350+ pulls on Madness back in DS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixuzcc View Post
    Top guilds sometimes do over 100 tries on heroic bosses.

    Not on all of them of course, but some.
    Ragnaros took more than 500 pulls for some top 20 guilds

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixuzcc View Post
    Top guilds sometimes do over 100 tries on heroic bosses.

    Not on all of them of course, but some.
    Paragon said they had 500 attempts on heroic Rag before they killed him.

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