Wrath by a million miles.... still the best expansion released
Wrath by a million miles.... still the best expansion released
WoW was based on Warcraft, and it finished Warcraft's story in Wotlk, so the best story would be the one that started in WC3 in a universe based 4 games before it.
MoP is miles ahead of other xpacs in how rich and detailed its lore is. There are so many freaking little stories about people and cultures. There are a ton of lore objects around the continent too. WotLK just has the most famous villian and that's it. The story that was told was meh.
I never understood this logic.
It's not like Deathwing was a villain made up just for Cataclysm.
Wotlk didn't end Warcraft's story, it ended Arthas' personal story.
The same way Burning Crusade ended Illidan's (baring any sort of resurrection in the future.)
Cataclysm ended Neltharion's story.
Mists is really the first expansion that's unique to wow and not just tying up pieces left over from Warcraft.
I really wish people would stop just picking their favorite expansion for any given poll, and actually think about the question.
At the end of the day, only two significant story things happened in WotLK
One was that we went to Northrend, we screwed up Arthas' plans, and we killed him.
The second was that we got a slightly clearer picture of how the Old Gods and Titans have interacted, as well as the origin stories for gnomes/dwarves/humans.
Mists has already introduced a continent with a very very rich background, and several races on it that have unique histories spanning thousands of years. And continued character progression that WotLK completely lacked other than Wrynn realizing that sometimes it's okay to treat orcs with respect.
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The Abbot at first tried to console Pai Mei, only to find Pai Mei was... inconsolable.
Amazing sig, done by mighty Lokann
Still gotta give it to Vanilla imo.What you wanting? *hic*
Tell me a story. John.
Aright *hic*...Say, you look famillar *hic*. Have I ever told you about the time me and Windsor fought off thir, er...a thous...a million orcs?
Let me grab popped corn kernels, sire.
Windsor was particularly ornery that day - and believe me, for Windsor, that's a monumental accomplishment. He kept telling me that 'something feels off.' Well he wasn't kidding!
We were in that middle of Blackrock Mountain when the filthy animals attacked. I'm talking about the orcs, of course. Pay attention, will ya? All you could hear were grunts and that clanging of steel as they rushed us.
So what did you do?
Me versus fifty orcs? I'm no fool, <player>. My pappy always told me, 'Discreditin is the better part of a cracked.' or something, and I knew what that meant.
Start making sense, dwarf. I don't want to have anything to do with your cracker, your pappy, or any sort of 'discreditin.;
Alright, alright. Anyhow, so I sorta slipped into the shadows.
That didn't sit too well with Windsor, seeing as how he was already extra cranky, Well he started spinnin' old Ironfoe around and screaming like a mad man at the orcs.
Yep, You never heard of Ironfoe? The legendary orc slaying hammer? Yep, yep, that was ol' Windsor's hammer. He told me that Franclorn Forgewright: The Dark Iron responsible for stonewrought archimetenc...building stuff. He also said that hammer had a twin that Franclor kept for himself. Think he called it Ironfel or something.
So where was I? Oh yea, so the orcs rushed Windsor and Windsor, well, he didn't move ah inch. He stood tall as they charged him, ten at a time. All I could see was the glow from Ironfoe and a lot of blood. This went on for hours, maybe days. I don't remember. Anyhow, FINALLY, it stopped
So that's how Windsor died...
Died? Are you cracked, <player>? Excused me, miss <player>! Windsor wouldn't have died from no fifth orcs. As sure as Thelsmar blood sausage is the tastiest food the world may ever know, there he stood: He was covered in orc chunks
So he did he die?
Why do you keep saying he died? Who told you he died? I never said he died.
He went missing is all.
You see, apparently we had gotten into the middle of some big orc Versus Dark Iron dwarf battle. The orcs, being the filthy, miserable curs that hey are, were our early, setting up some traps and other diabolical things you probably wouldn't understand.
Ok, So where that hell is he? Wait a minute! Are you drunk?
Dwarves don't get drunk, missy. I'm just a little sloggy.
Anyhow, Windsor? I figured he's somewhere in Blackrock Depths. That's the Dark Iron city for you unedumecated peoples
WHY is he in Blackrock Depths
Slow down! I was getting to that!
So there he was, standing tall with all the blood and guts dripping off him when who shows up?
The Dark Irons! Didn't you hear a word I said??
Well, the Dark Irons are a little craftier that those Blackrock orcs. They came prepared. by prepared I mean there were about 300 of em... *hic* 'scuse me.
300? So the Dark Irons killed him and dragged him into the Depths?
Missy, If I didn't know better, I'd think you were one of them 'special' peoples. We call em Troggs.
Windsor didn't have no beef with the Dark Irons, after all, his great, great, grad pappy's best friend was a Dark Iron. Which is also probably why that army of Dark Irons didn't kill him on sight.
Finally! Put some fingers in your ears, your brain mighta just grown five sizes and I'm worried it might leak out.
So, the Dark Irons spared his life and took him prisoner. Their leader, some self-important, uppity fella named Thauris-something took Ironfoe for, himself. And that was the last I saw of ol' Windsor... *hic* 'scuse me.
Thanks Ragged John. Your story was very uplifting and informative.
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they all had pretty good points and some really bad points... wotlk story would have been amazing but it had some very large plot holes due to them running out of time >.< tbc lore at the start didn't make much sense but got better , cata was pretty interesting too but again some plot holes >.<
Plot holes really do spoil the story for me they could easily make me happy by just answering a few questions
i enjoyed the wrath story line a lot, as a 2nd i must say MoP from what i seen so far. most of it is fresh and not continuation or a wrap up of older story lines.
cata had a good story, but in my opion they wasted almost all of it. BC was a bit random in my eyes, while it had some high profile characters the story itself didnt do them justice especially the ending in the sunwell which was completely random.
vanilla lacked quite a lot of story in most raids and it didnt follow a story line, however the seperate stories it offered there were decent.
Mists by one hundred and thousand miles. It is the only expansion where something hasn't gone horribly wrong in lore yet.
Cataclysm was a big mess, Deathwing was wasted, Super-Thrall was super-stupid, the worst part of it was that it had so much potential, but it was all thrown away.
TBC and Vanilla had next to no lore really, it was like "Okay, so this guy is here now, let's kill him", and that's about it, only standout things were War of the Shifting Sands and Kael'thas' progression in TBC.
The worst is without a doubt Wrath though, I've spoken about it enough as it is, but holy fuck, I haven't seen any authors fuck their past characters up this much, this is worse than George Lucas fucking up Star Wars. In short Wrath was Inspector Tirion & Friends going out to beat Dr. Claw 5 times in a row while Dr. Claw's funny henchmen gets their asses handed to them (which would be twice for Anub'arak). Oh yeah, and in the middle of it we have this awesome story with Yogg-Saron, but that was the only good thing.
Mists have defied all my expectation, I've been sitting at the edge of my seat everytime there's something new. The story of the Mogu is by far the most interesting lore WoW has introduced, I'm so intrigued by it, especially Lei Shen. Then there's the awesome war moments of course, the Sha, Mantid, Old Gods, everything is just done right, and I have tried to be skeptical, I was sure that the lore for this expansion would suck, but I learned that while Blizzard can't control their old characters they are exceptional at controlling their new ones.
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Yea i agree Scotty i think mists as well just because thats when the horde starts actually doing shit. Just wish Saurfang would show up like he promised he would in Northrend.
I continue to stand by and not choose Mists of Pandaria until it is over even though I love the story alot and think its the absolute best story I have ever seen since Warcraft 3, Wrath will be my choice for now.
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Wrath. I did like vanillas "story" We are killing them because they need a killing.
Lich King was my favorite even with its problems (which were many).
MoP is not far behind and perhaps surpassing it with the perspective of some time. It's not finished yet of course so it's hard to know.
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Wrath will possibly always have my opinion as the best Expansion for this game, purely for its immersible story and the great memories I had during it.
However, Mists' story has what wariofan: None of the Lore has been fucked up in a large way yet, nor has any of it been screwed up to begin with.
I dunno what Blizzard's writing staff did after Cata, but I've felt immersion in this Expansion's story like I did in Wrath.
The only little stories aside from that was the events of Wrathgate and its fallout, along with Garrosh's rise to power.
If you look at it as a whole (and this is coming from someone who loved Wrath's story), there wasn't a ton of small threads in its story.