Russian Bombers in American airspace

[Catta]

Givin to you by america... you know nothing.

Did you just claim that the T-34 is american...

[Cybran]

thank the brits for the night raids, that was their department, we did the daytime raids, which took heavier losses since you could see them more easily.

American RAF Wellingtons did the deadlies night boming raid. The heavy death toll forced them to switch to night raids and terror rather than precision. I should also mention that the bombings were carried out because of a token war declaration.

Again, this is not bashing. You (some americans) see europe as a single entity. Many of the europeans you ask for thanks have suffered more from the allies then from the germans.

[Jackmoves]

You know Ka, I almost cannot believe that you are even debating this. If the Russians had taken all of Germany they could have taken the rest of western Europe as well.

But Stalin was a nice guy right?

They couldn't take Finland.

Winter War
Part of World War II
Date 30 November 1939 – 13 March 1940
(3 months, 1 week and 5 days)
Location Eastern Finland
Result Moscow Peace Treaty

Territorial changes
Cession of the Gulf of Finland islands, Karelian Isthmus, Ladoga Karelia, Salla, and Rybachy Peninsula, and rental of Hanko to the Soviet Union.

Belligerents
Finland + * Foreign Volunteers
Soviet Union

Strength
Finland
337,000–346,500 men
32 tanks
114 aircraft

Soviet Union
425,640–760,578 men
998,100 men (overall)
2,514–6,541 tanks
3,880 aircraft

Casualties and losses
Finland
25,904 dead or missing
43,557 wounded
1,000 captured
957 civilians in air raids
20–30 tanks
62 aircraft
70,000 total casualties

Soviet Union
126,875 dead or missing
188,671 wounded, injured or burned
5,572 captured
3,543 tanks
261–515 aircraft
323,000 total casualties

*Volunteers arrived from various countries. By far, the largest foreign contingent came from neighbouring Sweden, which provided nearly 8,760 volunteers during the war. The Swedish Volunteer Corps (Svenska Frivilligkåren), formed from the Swedes, the Norwegians (727 men) and the Danes (1,010 men), fought on the northern front at Salla. In total, Finland received 12,000 volunteers.

[Alocolas]

World War II was primarily fought in Europe. Which continent is the US in?

umm... you do know that 2 russians soldiers got 1 gun.. the other carried the ammo.. then told to charge a mg-42? Im surprised at how you dont know your own history. America wouldnt do that... we are smart.

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The parts to build it were.. and the labour that but it together were... the ships that transported it were... come on man.

[goobernoob]

If you have something negative to say about my country, by no means don't continue beating about the bush with it. What's wrong with being Russian?



Only if you have a selective perception of history. The reason why Germany attacked Russia so early was that Britain stalled them, and they either had to procure fuel supplies or run out. The Nazi armies were running on short supplies from the onset of the war.



No.

sticks and stones would be a major exaggeration but we did help out quite a bit with lend lease:

In total, the US deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks); 11,400 aircraft and 1,75 million tons of food.

I somewhat doubt the figure of 11 billion is adjusted for inflation

[Kasierith]

umm... you do know that 2 russians soldiers got 1 gun.. the other carried the ammo.. then told to charge a mg-42? Im surprised at how you dont know your own history. America wouldnt do that... we are smart.

Apparently that trait has watered down since the war. You're shifting goal posts with literally every post you make.

[Thehealbus]

ಠ_ಠ
Your education has failed so miserably that I have difficulties expressing just how much I believe it failed.

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I'M not the Russian...

Jesus, LOOK AT THE DAMN LOCATIONS! If you don't recognize it - google it.

Really? I hope you're aware that Britain literally lost everything in battle, and then got bombed to hell before the US showed up with an actual competent army to save the them and the world.

[Bigbamboozal]

I did the math just now, know what it came up as?
Doods, stop frothing at the mouth, you know how hard it is to get a decent vacation in what's left of their job?!
didn't you guys read the quotes from the russian bomber crews?
"In Soviet Russia, you take vacation on the job, cheap flights that way"
Guam must be nice this time of year.

(seriously glad I adjusted my own attitude, you guys sound crazy when you get all tweaked over this small, nothing, shit. I didn't realize it when I was right there along with you....but it's true. Like a bunch of lunatics.)

[Catta]

They couldn't take Finland.

I remember hearing it had something to do with Stalin purging anyone who could oppose him - which was basically all the competent people.

[Deleted]

If you have something negative to say about my country, by no means don't continue beating about the bush with it. What's wrong with being Russian?

I like living in a free country where I have rights.

Only if you have a selective perception of history. The reason why Germany attacked Russia so early was that Britain stalled them, and they either had to procure fuel supplies or run out. The Nazi armies were running on short supplies from the onset of the war.

No.

I am willing to tolerate ignorance from you Ka because naivety always amuses me, but don't you dare distort history to fit your point of view.

The Nazis were stupid to invade Russia and be paralyzed by the winter, but U.S. supplies were vital in ending the war. Please educate yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Le...veries_to_USSR

Listen to your fellow countryman Stalin himself. I'm sure you are a huge fan of Stalin.

Joseph Stalin, during the Tehran Conference in 1943, acknowledged publicly the importance of American efforts during a dinner at the conference: "Without American production the United Nations could never have won the war."

[Kasierith]

sticks and stones would be a major exaggeration but we did help out quite a bit with lend lease:

In total, the US deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks); 11,400 aircraft and 1,75 million tons of food.

I somewhat doubt the figure of 11 billion is adjusted for inflation

I've never denied the aid that the US sent; see the last page. But, again, saying that the US was the be all end all saviors of World War II is facetious, and pretty much comes from an education on the war based on comic books.

[Alocolas]

Stop grasping at straws Ka, Admit you got American help and be humble about it.

Thank you.

[Kasierith]

Stop grasping at straws Ka, Admit you got American help and be humble about it.

Thank you.

Perhaps you should... you know.... read the pages before you post.

[Catta]

Apparently that trait has watered down since the war.

I think im in love...

[Jackmoves]

I remember hearing it had something to do with Stalin purging anyone who could oppose him - which was basically all the competent people.

Yup good old Stalin killed most of the experienced officers ;P

[Alocolas]

Well Russian machine never break right? Good Ol' American parts that make it work.

[goobernoob]

American RAF Wellingtons did the deadlies night boming raid. The heavy death toll forced them to switch to night raids and terror rather than precision. I should also mention that the bombings were carried out because of a token war declaration.

Again, this is not bashing. You (some americans) see europe as a single entity. Many of the europeans you ask for thanks have suffered more from the allies then from the germans.

the RAF is British, m8, and you accuse me of thinking of europe as one country?

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I've never denied the aid that the US sent; see the last page. But, again, saying that the US was the be all end all saviors of World War II is facetious, and pretty much comes from an education on the war based on comic books.

Ok, sounds like were mostly on the same page then.

[Tokru]

umm... you do know that 2 russians soldiers got 1 gun.. the other carried the ammo.. then told to charge a mg-42? Im surprised at how you dont know your own history. America wouldnt do that... we are smart.[COLOR="red"]

Yeah, your soldiers were each given a gun before beeing told to charge a mg-42

[Crashdummy]

Maybe they are testing how close they can go to USA without being detected?

Not that they are planning something, just because having that info may or may not be useful in the future.

Information is power.

USA often sends aircraft into space they are not allowed too.

[Applenazi]

...as you know yanks like to start wars out of the blue and then decide to drop nukes on people.

Honestly I feel so blessed that I was born in the digital age, for thousands of years mankind has existed without the ability to have 24 hour access to people so fucking stupid they imply the United States started World War 2.