Well, then those players probably belong in LFR - and that is totally okay. In my opinion it's important that players who do not care about performing well also get to see the content, if only for lore and funness (yes, that is now a word) reasons. They should not, however, expect to do even normal mode without putting at least a couple of hours of effort in to ensure that they know the basics of their classes.
The clue is in the word "normal" which means average, the mean. And then, once we've renamed things so they match what they are really like, we can have a normal mode of raids, slightly harder than LFR but still doable by average players - i.e. a "normal mode"
Everyone is so eager to blame early cata for the loss. Cataclysm went through a major roller coaster in terms of game direction, from hard to easy and it really made no difference in terms of numbers.
Game is too hard people left. Game is too easy people left. Which is it? Oddly enough, more people left when the game was becoming "too easy"
Harder content does not mean better content. Most people play video games as they were created for, mild enjoyment and to pass the time - not an alternate life style most posters seem to think.
They'll always tell you to work harder but some common sense is supposed to be applied if they think you're not currently capable of completing enough of a hgher difficulty paper.
Also, WoW isn't a place of learning either.
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People comparing difficulty and fixed difficulty with educational experiences, standards and examination criteria take games far too seriously.
"If in school you can't do something, a teacher doesn't just make the exam easier". It saddens me to hear the difficulty of a game being compared to this.
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Even with the success of Cataclysm, World of Warcraft saw a gradual decline in subscribers through 2011. Following the release of Cataclysm, subscription levels reached a peak of 12 million subscribers but soon dropped to pre-Cataclysm levels of 11.4 million by the end of March, 2011. In early November, 2011, subscriptions declined even further to 10.3 million users. In 2012, the subscription numbers stabilized at around 10.2 million users, holding steady for two consecutive quarters. On August 2nd, 2012 it was revealed that subscription numbers had continued to decline, landing at an approximate 9.1 million subscribers.
So drop from beginning of cata till 4.3 1.7 mio.
4.3 til just before MoP release a drop of 1.2 mio.
But if you say beginning of cata till firelands its a drop of 600k
compared to firelands till before MoP release 2.3 mio drop.
So no the biggest drop was not at the beginning of cataclysm.
I think its not about being easy or hard its about being exciting or boring, Which I personally think the game got instantly boring right after that stupid Naxx25 in WotLK where WoW amazing growth stopped, but again its not important for me how others feel, for me personally as a super casual player wotlk make game boring, donno why. Its so hard to analyse the reasons.
"Blizzard is not incompetent or stupid and they are not intentionally screwing you over"
Well, yes, it is better.. but not a harder game. I think a perfect MMO would be one where most activities are tiered and players have a lot of freedom. In other words, progression in every area of the game without cheapening it with nerfs to the harder content (unless its warranted and a balance issue).
Since they can't let players to pick difficulty at the beginning of the game, they should provide content for each difficulty level with appropriate rewards as standalone. Easy dailies, quests, instances, even raids for casuals with low quality rewards without the need to "progress" into medium difficulty level. If they find it too easy, they of course should move up on their own. Same with medium and hard difficulty. This way they should make everyone happy without complaints that casuals are ruining the game or hardcores are taking over and also without cheapening players achievements and taking out real progression.
Because there is no one to admire and glance at anymore who impresses you, just by looking at gear?
Because epics aren't truely epic now so meh? ^^
Hell, that's why LFR was made. To try and get more people into those instances that barely anyone was seeing/even really wanted to see.
I imagine, if anything, the biggest thing that kept old subs afloat was how long it took to level (people played pre-end game longer, and there were a lot of numbers back then stating a lot of people didn't even get to level cap. A lot of people STILL don't get to endcap, even), and what had an even bigger impact later in the game's life, is there simply not being enough to do once you get to the endcap (Which they made super easy to get to in Cata). So, you hit 85, and you didn't raid? Your choices were heroics or PVP. I know that's why -I- stopped playing for a long while in cata, I simply ran out of things to do.
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