It, WILL get hot fixed, in the mean time, people need to stop bitching. Speed running is Speed running, And by the sounds they got the worlds fastest time. GG. Its a exploit that they found and used. You see more bitching on forums than real life if someone see's someone else "cheat".
It was fairly easy to see for every group going there, if you fail and reset you noticed the buff staying right away. At least we did back then.
Last edited by Espada; 2013-02-19 at 03:14 PM.
Good job, good sharing!
Back in the days people used to grab Ony / Hakkar / Nefarian Buffs before running raids (think Loatheb, glorious times except for warlocks and their soulstones).
[sarcasm]Clearly those encounters weren't designed with those powerful buffs in mind, all those guilds must have been cheating![/scarasm]
Another neat story: Blizzard Devs vs. Mogu'shan Palace Challenge Mode (at around 1h 32m)
Right after Gekkan, they evade the Mobs on the elevator.
Everyone does that, those Mobs are useless. Although everyone does it noone views it as cheating / bugging / exploiting, guess evading Mobs seems to be O.K. with the community.
They've banned entire guilds for abusing the evade mechanic during boss kills, too. They probably don't care about it for challenge modes because they don't provide any rewards, and essentially nobody cares about them, so it's not worth the trouble to spend time dealing with it when they can deal with more important stuff instead.
“To who do you reward the right to decide which speech is harmful, or who is the harmful speaker? Or to determine in advance what are the harmful consequences going to be, that we know enough about in advance to prevent? [...] It may not be determined in advance what words are apt or inapt. No one has the knowledge that would be required to make that call.”
- Christopher Hitchens, 1949 - 2011
Most of you are talking about something you don't fully understand.
That group deserves their time which reflects the work they put in it.
Was it a new original strategy ? no.
Was it ingenious ? yes... 3 months ago.
Was it well executed? not really, but still better than others that tried hence their time.
Is it beatable without what everyone consider cheating ? YES, BY AT LEAST A MINUTE.
If you consider that cheating, you are simply removing yourself from the competition. A year from now, the CM's top times will be the best executed strategies compiling every single trick to each dungeon, and that will be the beauty of it. Resetting it it's part of that dungeon, just like several people cliking the orbs on shado-pan, dk mc on scarlet, or using the scholo buff by picking it in the normal version and then skiping the proffesor on the CM. If it works, use it, other people will to improve your time. All these things obsolete the gold requirement, but not the competition.
Considering this video show a run of 12:21 in Nizuao temple and they don't reset the adds.
The OP's video have it cleared in 10:17 and they claim "2min faster than the previous fastest time" while resetting adds.
So yea "everybody use the add reset in Nizuao now so it's not cheating" not so much a good claim apparently.
Originally Posted by JonLajoieOriginally Posted by JonLajoie
cleaver use of game mechanics thats it.. this is not cheating... in the other hand is not intended to be this way so yeah is a "world record" still, the time is there for a world record but not the the skill
Washuwâ Ragnaros Bad Karma US 6/6h-6/6H-4/4H 25man Tier 14 - 11/13 H Tier 15
This is an impressive run, Makes me want to see what crazy schemes I can come up with