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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow the Edgehog View Post
    You can, it's just harder to do. I build Kayle so I can, and I carried as Nasus last night (600 stacks + Ohmwrecker at 30 minutes = rip towers).

    Yeah, fuck Katarina mains. Bullshit champion.

    I generally only run tanky masteriea on certain champions. The only junglers I use them on are Sejuani and such, the rest are all offensive.
    Well, it's still possible, but it's not like you can pick a shitload of champions where you can just get fed and single-handedly dominate a game on (Like old Fizz could).

    I actually prefer Teemo mains over Katarina mains because they're at least honest about them being assholes.

    And yeah, I just generally do 21/9 unless I'm on Vi, where I take 14/11/5 for bladeweaving in offense, then some extra nice defensive power and movement speed/ward/potion masteries in utility.
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    What's all the fuss about Katarina?

    I haven't played for like over a month, that's why I ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    What's all the fuss about Katarina?

    I haven't played for like over a month, that's why I ask.
    More than likely because she has the bullshit resets. I don't hate her as a champion that much, but i fucking hate the fact that if you give her even a slight opening during a teamfight, she can wipe your whole team out in less than 2 seconds with her bullshit passive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    Well, it's still possible, but it's not like you can pick a shitload of champions where you can just get fed and single-handedly dominate a game on (Like old Fizz could).

    I actually prefer Teemo mains over Katarina mains because they're at least honest about them being assholes.

    And yeah, I just generally do 21/9 unless I'm on Vi, where I take 14/11/5 for bladeweaving in offense, then some extra nice defensive power and movement speed/ward/potion masteries in utility.
    Oh yeah, it's a small group now, especially with everything that's changed lately.

    I do too. Like you said, at least they're honest, most Katarina mains I run into insist that it's not the champion, it's their skill that makes them win.

    I do mostly 21/9/0, although it differs on a few champions (21/0/9 or such on Udyr, Hecarim, etc). Extended buff timers/movement speed OP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    What's all the fuss about Katarina?

    I haven't played for like over a month, that's why I ask.
    Same as ever. The player can dominate games regardless of their actual skill due to her mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergar View Post
    More than likely because she has the bullshit resets. I don't hate her as a champion that much, but i fucking hate the fact that if you give her even a slight opening during a teamfight, she can wipe your whole team out in less than 2 seconds with her bullshit passive.
    That's what I hate. It's one thing if she's fed and/or skilled enough to do it, it's another if they can do it purely because of the way the champion is designed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergar View Post
    More than likely because she has the bullshit resets. I don't hate her as a champion that much, but i fucking hate the fact that if you give her even a slight opening during a teamfight, she can wipe your whole team out in less than 2 seconds with her bullshit passive.
    She's always been like that though.

    Why the fuss now? :p

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    She's always been like that though.

    Why the fuss now? :p
    No clue. People probably just lost games against her and started complaining. She's fine imo, but her passive is allmost as annoying as teemo's E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ergar View Post
    No clue. People probably just lost games against her and started complaining. She's fine imo, but her passive is allmost as annoying as teemo's E.
    Teemo's E is way worse lol. That shit can completely shut you down. Kat's passive doesn't do that. There's always a chance to fuck her up.

    Also, I hate Teemo's mushrooms a lot more than his E lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    What's all the fuss about Katarina?

    I haven't played for like over a month, that's why I ask.
    Lack of counterplay other than "just stun her lol ", point and click skills, low cooldown ultimate and 0 manacosts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ergar View Post
    More than likely because she has the bullshit resets. I don't hate her as a champion that much, but i fucking hate the fact that if you give her even a slight opening during a teamfight, she can wipe your whole team out in less than 2 seconds with her bullshit passive.
    I still don't understand why they decided to take Master Yi's ultimate reset off his ultimate, yet let Katarina keep her reset on her passive.
    Muh balance
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow the Edgehog View Post
    Oh yeah, it's a small group now, especially with everything that's changed lately.

    I do too. Like you said, at least they're honest, most Katarina mains I run into insist that it's not the champion, it's their skill that makes them win.

    I do mostly 21/9/0, although it differs on a few champions (21/0/9 or such on Udyr, Hecarim, etc). Extended buff timers/movement speed OP.

    Same as ever. The player can dominate games regardless of their actual skill due to her mechanics.
    Yeah there's only a few characters that can basically win an entire game on their own, a lot of them got guttered by Riot and forced into positions where they need to build in different ways only to retain a sliver of power they previously had.

    Katarina main: xDDDDDDDDDD noobs learn to play xDDDDDDDDDDDD. You just mad because I'm skilled. :))))))

    Utility is a pretty weird tree that is only really good if you want mobility/oddball masteries like spell vamp/mana increase etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    She's always been like that though.

    Why the fuss now? :p
    People just play here more these days since Riot is too busy nerfing all the other midlaners instead of Katarina.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    Lack of counterplay other than "just stun her lol ", point and click skills, low cooldown ultimate and 0 manacosts.
    She's a piece of shit in lane though. That's one of her hardest counters or something.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    I still don't understand why they decided to take Master Yi's ultimate reset off his ultimate, yet let Katarina keep her reset on her passive.
    Muh balance.
    Probably because Katarina needs her abilities to do damage while Yi has his abilities and AAs.

    Kat is just way too reliant on her abilities, especially her ultimate. Not saying Yi isn't either but the difference between the two is significant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    People just play here more these days since Riot is too busy nerfing all the other midlaners instead of Katarina.
    Seems like I was right then. xD

    A champion is played more often so it's only bound people start noticing her more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majad View Post
    Teemo's E is way worse lol. That shit can completely shut you down. Kat's passive doesn't do that. There's always a chance to fuck her up.

    Also, I hate Teemo's mushrooms a lot more than his E lol.
    I really have no issue with Teemo anymore (only top laner I play anymore is the aforementioned Nasus, and they all do the same thing anyways). First buy Spirit Visage, farm under turret until that point, Wither + stacked Q = ggwp Teemo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zelgius View Post
    I'm taking a liking to toplane horse.
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    Lack of counterplay other than "just stun her lol ", point and click skills, low cooldown ultimate and 0 manacosts.
    I still don't understand why they decided to take Master Yi's ultimate reset off his ultimate, yet let Katarina keep her reset on her passive.
    Muh balance
    Yeah there's only a few characters that can basically win an entire game on their own, a lot of them got guttered by Riot and forced into positions where they need to build in different ways only to retain a sliver of power they previously had.

    Katarina main: xDDDDDDDDDD noobs learn to play xDDDDDDDDDDDD. You just mad because I'm skilled. :))))))

    Utility is a pretty weird tree that is only really good if you want mobility/oddball masteries like spell vamp/mana increase etc.
    People just play here more these days since Riot is too busy nerfing all the other midlaners instead of Katarina.
    Pony Train OP.

    I really like the Utility tree on a few champions, and supports. Move speed mastery is really good for, say, Hecarim and Udyr (and the buff increase timer one), and the gold and mana masteries are really good for supports like Sona and Leona, I think.

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