Pandashan = Night's watch (from "A Song of Ice and Fre" books in case you haven't TV)
They are more than just "an army", they are in a monkish order protecting their people and isle from annihilation. They are overzealous about their task not "noble defenders of the light" but th only protectors of pandaria, patrolling night and day their wall and fighting shas and mogus everywhere it is needed.
They aren't paragon of virtue, they just do what need to be done.
If the majority of the pandaren are living in peace and beer, it's because the pandashan are protecting them.
There is also that tidbit when you turn in flying tiger gourami that pandaren killed people for eating a fish if they weren't royalty.
You see, there's this thing called "aggro". It's a very complicated, very technical roleplaying expression.
Loosely translated, it means "the priest dies".
Let me just break this down here.
- OP, Your post is subjective and you obviously a deeper understand of story structure and just see things at face value
- Poster above this one, you do the same just in another way.
All this is subjective and how you decide to look at it, because blizzard will always make points in story about controversy. An orc raiding party attacks an alliance group and kills them in the barrens, alliance think they are evil. Yet a week before those same humans burned one of those orcs farms down because it was in there way and killed his family, so the humans are evil. Both sides kill one another, and this retarded subjective opinionation carries on.
I so often get bored of AvsH discussions, that its now spilling over into other aspects of lore and players form subjective opinions of it.
For one, it's an Ogre, not an Orc. Also, he's a member (high-ranking at that) of the Twilight's Hammer. After feigning him out (the "torturer" actually had wind elementals ready to catch him should he fall, it was all just a huge bluff) he chooses to jump into the engine (he's not thrown by anyone) rather than be found out by the Cult as a traitor.
So no, that quest isn't bad at all.
the shado-pan are supposed to be darker than the other pandaren. they do the "dirty work". and farmers are pretty much the least sympathetic people you can find.
I think it's good that their are 2 sides to the Pandaren and that they are more than just Brewers and Farmers. All the races in the game have their demons, good to see the Pandaren do as well.
I was rather surprised at how cruel the Shado-pan's punishments could be. Seems like some aspects of Mogu rule die hard...
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i think a lot of people are confusing the harder difficulty in a twatty childish environment for matureness ;p
kungfoo pandas does not make wow mature lol. i cringe every time i see/hear stoopid pandas n monks aboot ;p (altho i dont play, but my kids do hehe)
........THE WRITING'S ON THE WALL !!!!!
Of course they're trying too hard, but at the end of the day being bidden to take Pandaren seriously and indeed, making them serious, seems about as reasonable to me as the cast of Game of Thrones consisting of clowns and jesters and likewise being told to take it just as seriously.
"Can your blood atone for genocide, orc? Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron. Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily? No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you." - Grand Admiral Proudmoore
just cause two incidents have a enemy member kill themselves doenst make them "somewhat a copy", they're similar because they share the same reasoning. members of ruthless factions tend to do that rather than face their sordid faith (even if they dont confess, their side ussually finishes them off just to be sure).
Last edited by Turmoill; 2013-02-20 at 10:58 AM.
Thanks a bunch for the Signature, Cthulhu Ftagn.
The kids were disposable, trash and orphans, they would've died in a couple of years anyway. And Shado-Pan aren't trained by pillow-fights. However, too much focus on nasty stuff at once, that's an overkill.
A much needed saving grace for the Pandaren if you ask me.
Most of Pandaria has felt like helping out innocent, friendly farmers against vermin or spiders or other pests.
Which after facing all the horrible things we have faced in previous expansions felt like a real slap in the face similiar to the Nagrand quest for berries..
But this balances things out, a much needed yang to the otherwise very ying race.