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    Quote Originally Posted by Azerox View Post
    Hahaha this is funny.

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    wow you put a lot of work into this.
    very cool concept for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Demon Hunters


    Solving some problems with Demon Hunters

    1. Demon Hunters don’t wear armor.
    A. See the Deconstruction section.

    2. Only elves can be Demon Hunters.
    A. I agree, which is why this class is limited to only 2 races; Blood Elves and Night Elves.

    3. Metamorphosis and Immolation are Warlock abilities.
    A. True, but the Demon Hunter version of Metamorphosis and Immolation are very different than the Warlock versions.

    4. Demon Hunters are too powerful to start at level one.
    A. Agreed, which is why they should be a hero class and start at level 55. This will also set them up to enter the Burning Crusade right out of their training zone.

    5. Demon Hunters are just like Warlocks.
    A. Demon Hunters are to Warlocks as Paladins are to Priests. They use the same magic type, but fulfill very different purposes.

    6. Warglaives are rare weapons!
    A. Demon Hunters would have their own training grounds and exclusive equipment similar to Monks in Mists of Pandaria.

    7. Why no Diablo 3 version of Demon Hunter?
    A. This is Warcraft, not Diablo. Also the majority of players want the WC3 version of the Demon Hunter above all else.

    ion)
    Weapons: 1h Swords, 1h Maces, or 1h Axes, 2h Swords, 2h Axes
    Roles: Tank/DPS/DPS
    Type: Melee/Magic Ranged
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    Resource: Mana, Shadow Fragments (Discipline) Shadow Chain

    I like your idea and its a very attractive idea. Your answers to the Demon hunters problems was 100% right . I hope blizzard implements this.
    I will post your Idea on WoWHead .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz
    Solving some problems with Demon Hunters

    1. Demon Hunters don’t wear armor.
    A. See the Deconstruction section.

    2. Only elves can be Demon Hunters.
    A. I agree, which is why this class is limited to only 2 races; Blood Elves and Night Elves.

    3. Metamorphosis and Immolation are Warlock abilities.
    A. True, but the Demon Hunter version of Metamorphosis and Immolation are very different than the Warlock versions.

    4. Demon Hunters are too powerful to start at level one.
    A. Agreed, which is why they should be a hero class and start at level 55. This will also set them up to enter the Burning Crusade right out of their training zone.

    5. Demon Hunters are just like Warlocks.
    A. Demon Hunters are to Warlocks as Paladins are to Priests. They use the same magic type, but fulfill very different purposes.


    6. Warglaives are rare weapons!
    A. Demon Hunters would have their own training grounds and exclusive equipment similar to Monks in Mists of Pandaria.

    7. Why no Diablo 3 version of Demon Hunter?
    A. This is Warcraft, not Diablo. Also the majority of players want the WC3 version of the Demon Hunter above all else.
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    About how warlocks are the same as demon hunters
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz
    but for a class to exist, they must be unique from existing classes. As stated before, the two examples you posted showcased NPCs with Warlock and Warrior abilities. So what (gameplay-wise) would make this class unique from the current classes in the game? Their demonic aspect is completely owned by Warlocks. Their main source of inspiration, Illidan, is also completely owned by Warlocks. Their weaponry can be utilized by every melee user in the game currently. So what exactly would make this class-concept unique, and what spells/abilities would signify that uniqueness?
    ^this is merely one of the many posts of the same nature made by you Teriz. Can u explain to me how you manage to say one thing and then another completely diferente and still keep ur straight face?

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    demon hunters dont use fel magic outside of metamorphosis(which i dont even know if its fel magic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQShot View Post
    Busted Teriz

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    About how warlocks are the same as demon hunters
    Warlocks are not the same as Demon Hunters and this is written on every forum. Dont prejudge classes. Immlation version isnt the same. Methamorphosis version isnt the same. They use agility , dodge enemies etc. Do warlocks have high dodge chance ?! Do warlocks use agility?! Do Warlocks attack the enemy by using weapon magic ?! The answers to these questions are NO, and NO and NO. I could ask you the same : About how Priests are similar to Paladins?! , About how Death Knights are similar to Warlocks?!. But still the answer is NO. WE both know that blizzard has the creativity to make it work. Blizzard can rename Immolation to Immolating Shield for Demon Hunters. Blizzard can rename Evasion to Demonic Evasion for Demon Hunters!!Blizzard may give Demon Hunters different types of transformations , NOOB , they dont enslave demons as warlocks do , but they kill them. So do you have any argument to protect your WORDS ?!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvoltinx View Post
    demon hunters dont use fel magic outside of metamorphosis(which i dont even know if its fel magic)
    Yes they use Fel Magic because they use the Dark(Shadow, Dark , Fel Magic etc) Powers against the legion. They might use this power at any time!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arberian View Post
    Warlocks are not the same as Demon Hunters and this is written on every forum. Dont prejudge classes. Immlation version isnt the same. Methamorphosis version isnt the same. They use agility , dodge enemies etc. Do warlocks have high dodge chance ?! Do warlocks use agility?! Do Warlocks attack the enemy by using weapon magic ?! The answers to these questions are NO, and NO and NO. I could ask you the same : About how Priests are similar to Paladins?! , About how Death Knights are similar to Warlocks?!. But still the answer is NO. WE both know that blizzard has the creativity to make it work. Blizzard can rename Immolation to Immolating Shield for Demon Hunters. Blizzard can rename Evasion to Demonic Evasion for Demon Hunters!!Blizzard may give Demon Hunters different types of transformations , NOOB , they dont enslave demons as warlocks do , but they kill them. So do you have any argument to protect your WORDS ?!
    LOL who R u calling NOOB?? I merely demonstratedhere the original poster's bullshit. In this thread he creates and defends the possibility of a Demon Hunter class and in another he tries to refute the very same thing. Understand now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQShot View Post
    LOL who R u calling NOOB?? I merely demonstratedhere the original poster's bullshit. In this thread he creates and defends the possibility of a Demon Hunter class and in another he tries to refute the very same thing. Understand now?
    First off, everyone knows Teriz likes to go back and bullshit, because he'd much prefer his tinker idea. Ever since he thought about tinkers, it's been nothing but tinkers and only tinkers. Kind of like Metzen and Orcs. However, I think his idea for demon hunter is very unique and keeps the spirit of the class, while also making it very different than warlocks. I doesn't matter what he goes back and says to make his tinker idea more appealing. I will never like tinkers and me and all my friends will ALWAYS like this demon hunter idea.

    Also, you're just butthurt because nobody likes your ideas. Every time a person that ISN'T you posts a new class idea, you go in to bash and try and 'improve' it. And when people criticize you, you act all offended and shit and look down on them for it. DonQShot busted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FmDarkslayer View Post
    wc death knight were fallen knights with orc warlocks souls in them. sorce http://www.wowwiki.com/Death_knight_(Warcraft_II)
    Hum, that's all good, but you reply to a 10 MONTHS OLD post ...
    Way to necro an old thread with a reply on a totally unrelated subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQShot View Post
    Busted Teriz

    About how warlocks are the same as demon hunters


    ^this is merely one of the many posts of the same nature made by you Teriz. Can u explain to me how you manage to say one thing and then another completely diferente and still keep ur straight face?
    Opinions change over time.

    This thread is almost a year old, and the post you quoted was created yesterday.

    I've made no attempt to hide this thread, or its original contents, so I fail to see how I am "busted".

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    I am all for new ideas and such , but I think world of Warcraft is getting over saturated with classes races etc....
    Where some see more as better , I would like to see less wasteful content and more streamline well thought of classes that funcution .
    You will never get class balance but most classes have too many abilities or three different rotations etc...

    Each class needs to be whitled Down to simple but effective dps, tank and healing.
    Not saying dumb them down to the point where it's not fun or boring but a smart rotation /priority setup
    Class wise do we need another ranged class ? A demon hunter is the same as a regular hunter as pure dps which so is Mage,Lock,hunter
    The only pure melee dps is rogue ranged is already over saturated .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorua View Post
    First off, everyone knows Teriz likes to go back and bullshit, because he'd much prefer his tinker idea. Ever since he thought about tinkers, it's been nothing but tinkers and only tinkers. Kind of like Metzen and Orcs. However, I think his idea for demon hunter is very unique and keeps the spirit of the class, while also making it very different than warlocks. I doesn't matter what he goes back and says to make his tinker idea more appealing. I will never like tinkers and me and all my friends will ALWAYS like this demon hunter idea.

    Also, you're just butthurt because nobody likes your ideas. Every time a person that ISN'T you posts a new class idea, you go in to bash and try and 'improve' it. And when people criticize you, you act all offended and shit and look down on them for it. DonQShot busted.
    LOL ofc I get butthurt! Because as opposed to Teriz, I have criteria in what I do and dont feed bullshit to the people like he does to you. But you seem to like it so much that you decided to come here and defend him ignorantly. I can see that you have no understand whatsoever of anything but you still talk like as if you did.Just like Teriz.
    I have no problem in accepting Teriz's concept as being better than mine. What I ultimately want is for the DH class as well any other cool classes to see the light of day in WOW. Not like Teriz.
    Anyway, I never bashed anyone who did't deserve it so don't take this personally...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    Opinions change over time.

    This thread is almost a year old, and the post you quoted was created yesterday.

    I've made no attempt to hide this thread, or its original contents, so I fail to see how I am "busted".
    Ok you can call it whatever you like. The truth is that you have two faces. Tell me, why would you bash my Demon Hunter concept first, then bash all other Demon Hunter concepts that were created by others, create a "5 reasons why Demon Hunters are impossible" thread and then create your own Demon Hunter thread?

    It's not a matter of opinions that change over time anymore because you never had only one opinion to start with. You always had many and you chose whatever helps you better in conversations. AND you can try and cover your own fails as much as u want m8, but I know that you posted na update saying that you made some changes to this thread less than a week ago so just fyi... you can fool others but not me

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQShot View Post
    Ok you can call it whatever you like. The truth is that you have two faces. Tell me, why would you bash my Demon Hunter concept first, then bash all other Demon Hunter concepts that were created by others, create a "5 reasons why Demon Hunters are impossible" thread and then create your own Demon Hunter thread?
    Because I like a challenge. No one could come up with a satisfactory DH class concept, so I created one that I felt matched the DH concept that people were hoping for.

    However its important to note that I still don't believe that Blizzard will ever create a stand-alone DH class.

    It's not a matter of opinions that change over time anymore because you never had only one opinion to start with. You always had many and you chose whatever helps you better in conversations. AND you can try and cover your own fails as much as u want m8, but I know that you posted na update saying that you made some changes to this thread less than a week ago so just fyi... you can fool others but not me
    I think most here know my stance on the DH class in WoW, regardless of what was posted in this thread almost a year ago. However, if it makes you feel better, I can always erase that part of the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonQShot View Post
    LOL who R u calling NOOB?? I merely demonstratedhere the original poster's bullshit. In this thread he creates and defends the possibility of a Demon Hunter class and in another he tries to refute the very same thing. Understand now?
    He also says at the very beginning that he doesn't believe it will ever happen, nor does he believe this is an accurate concept. Your 'bust' is even easier to break:

    a) This thread is from 10 months ago
    b) He states immediately as a part of the thread that it is just a concept he came up with for sake of creating a concept, NOT that he is advocating the idea of a Demon Hunter class

    And from this we can say: He used that argument to support the fake concept he made because otherwise he'd be stating in his own concept "Good point, guess I should just stop here and not bother to make a concept." He doesn't have to believe it.
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    I'd definitely play that class!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fleugen View Post
    He also says at the very beginning that he doesn't believe it will ever happen, nor does he believe this is an accurate concept. Your 'bust' is even easier to break:

    a) This thread is from 10 months ago
    b) He states immediately as a part of the thread that it is just a concept he came up with for sake of creating a concept, NOT that he is advocating the idea of a Demon Hunter class

    And from this we can say: He used that argument to support the fake concept he made because otherwise he'd be stating in his own concept "Good point, guess I should just stop here and not bother to make a concept." He doesn't have to believe it.
    LOL that's ok I dont really care anymore. But just for my inner peace I will answer to your post.
    A) This thread was updated by the OP a few days ago which was why I decided to call on this bullshit.
    B)SO now I can be a republican and a democrata at the same time too?? Awsome then, that would be really convenient... Wake up...

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    isn't the constant necro ing of dead threads an infractable offense?





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    Quote Originally Posted by Arberian View Post
    Warlocks are not the same as Demon Hunters and this is written on every forum. Dont prejudge classes. Immlation version isnt the same. Methamorphosis version isnt the same. They use agility , dodge enemies etc. Do warlocks have high dodge chance ?! Do warlocks use agility?! Do Warlocks attack the enemy by using weapon magic ?! The answers to these questions are NO, and NO and NO. I could ask you the same : About how Priests are similar to Paladins?! , About how Death Knights are similar to Warlocks?!. But still the answer is NO. WE both know that blizzard has the creativity to make it work. Blizzard can rename Immolation to Immolating Shield for Demon Hunters. Blizzard can rename Evasion to Demonic Evasion for Demon Hunters!!Blizzard may give Demon Hunters different types of transformations , NOOB , they dont enslave demons as warlocks do , but they kill them. So do you have any argument to protect your WORDS ?!



    Yes they use Fel Magic because they use the Dark(Shadow, Dark , Fel Magic etc) Powers against the legion. They might use this power at any time!!
    demon hunters use fire and arcane magic. try again

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    I am really sorry for the necro but I think this thread is still relevant, in the next expansion after Warlords I really do think that Demon Hunters will be a hero class only if the expansion after Warlords is a Burning Legion expansion.

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    This is a pretty cool concept. I hope it's opened up to more than just Night and Blood Elves though, other races should be able to play as Demon Hunters too.

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