"Hawaii Governor warns that sequestration will make Pearl Harbor less secure"

[Kasierith]

Since when has losing money mean getting dirty?

I consider having to make reductions to services that benefit the public to be dirty in a sense.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I consider having to make reductions to services that benefit the public to be dirty in a sense.

That's not dirty. I mean I get the sentiment to not want our defenses weakened horribly. I want a safe America but the public has to be functioning well so there should be a balance. But hey that's just me. I could be talking out of my ass for all I know.

[Deathpath]

Why has no one mentioned North Korea?

They've been flexing their nuclear program for years now. They hate America. They aren't able yet to carry a payload to Hawaii, but if they ever are I'd be worried if I was the governor of Hawaii as well since they're the closest high profile American target to Asia.

I wouldnt be worried about north korea. Their entire army is mostly a sham. Half of them will fall over to famine and mal-nourish while a quarter will abandon north korea for a better life and the rest will be taken care of easily. Not to mention they are a poor country and china wont support them because they need america as much as america needs china trade wise.

[Pum]

Are you stupid, troll or something in between? You think Al-Queada, the taliban, north korea or Iran will round up an army to charge over to freaking Hawaii??? Hawaii isn't exactly the Navy Base of the US it used to be. The only reasonable example you bring up is China but that won't happen anytime soon. Like think about it really-they can only attack Hawaii during the winter months (when they have tourists) to make any impact at all....... Not really but you catch my drift. The only reason Pearl Harbor happened was because we had our entire Navy there... We don't anymore... Al-Queada may seem like the old Japanese as they fly planes into buildings but they don't have the power anymore....

Holy moly take a chillaxative and just sit the fuck down.

[Schattenlied]

I really don't think they are talking about it being less secure to attack from japan(because that would make no logical sense at all), just in general.

[YuneKirby]

I wouldnt be worried about north korea. Their entire army is mostly a sham. Half of them will fall over to famine and mal-nourish while a quarter will abandon north korea for a better life and the rest will be taken care of easily. Not to mention they are a poor country and china wont support them because they need america as much as america needs china trade wise.

North Korea has the 4th largest active military in the world. If you include reserves they're second only after China. Their country is poor, but because they're a dictatorship they just take things from the citizens and give it to their military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mber_of_troops

[Paranoid Android]

Dangit!! The Japanese are gonna get us again. I saw this coming. I think we should make our military buget 50000000000000000x what it is now, so we outspend EVERY country in the world and in the universe!!! Also hmmm..like I always say I LOVE our Military Industrial Complex. I bet the Hawaii Governor is crying because of course the naval base is a huge employer to the state and Oahu. Like I say its government welfare but both sides ignore this.

Unlike our bases in Germany and Phillipines at least Pearl Harbor is located in the United States and is part of our national defense.

[DieFichte]

North Korea has the 4th largest active military in the world. If you include reserves they're second only after China. Their country is poor, but because they're a dictatorship they just take things from the citizens and give it to their military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mber_of_troops

So they have double the personel than South Korea, but South Korea has 3 to 5 times the budget. North Korean military is big, but they have no money. And no you can't just take money from your citizens, if these citizens have no money either.

(And they are the 2nd biggest army behind russia, you sould read your link better, china has not that big of an armed force)

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Last time I checked the U.S.A isn't Dolphins or Whales.

[smelltheglove]

North Korea has the 4th largest active military in the world. If you include reserves they're second only after China. Their country is poor, but because they're a dictatorship they just take things from the citizens and give it to their military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mber_of_troops

all of that is well and good, but how's their navy? unless they plan on having that large army swim there. they flat out dont have the means to realistically engage anybody that far from them, especially over an ocean. while they might pose plenty of threat to south korea i dont understand how anybody thinks they could possibly threaten major US territory in any meaningful fashion

[McTurbo]

drastic draconian cuts... wow.. seriously? 85 billion out of a budget of 3.5 trillion. is that even 1%?

[breadisfunny]

drastic draconian cuts... wow.. seriously? 85 billion out of a budget of 3.5 trillion. is that even 1%?

yeah its just above 2%

[Deleted]

North Korea has the 4th largest active military in the world. If you include reserves they're second only after China. Their country is poor, but because they're a dictatorship they just take things from the citizens and give it to their military.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mber_of_troops

Yet they are still using Soviet era equipment and no doubt outdated tactics. They would be up against battle hardened forces that have been at war for the last 10 years, armed with the latest in personal fighting gear, latest generation aircraft and tanks as well as Drones and other things I am not allowed to talk about.

Seoul would be a wreck, but so would the whole of North Korea.

[Gratlim]

...The fanatics who ruled Japan in the 1930s/40s are gone.

...And the US fanatics that used the nuke on Japan because they couldn't win the war are gone too.

With tensions growing up between Korea / Japan and China, I would't reduce your pacific defense.

Inc Gundams on Pearl Harbors

[Deleted]

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/h...-politics.html

Is anyone else concerned about this? I've heard that sequestration is 85 BILLION in cuts to future spending increases. Do you think this might leave us vulnerable to the Japanese?

Japan won't attack America, they have no motives and have a good relationship with each other. It's a higher risk that the Chinese, Russians or North Koreans attack Pearl Harbor.

[lockedout]

Al-Queada may seem like the old Japanese as they fly planes into buildings but they don't have the power anymore....

Infracted.

Al queda flew planes into buildings?

[Korgoth]

The US gov cannot continue to keep spending over a trillion dollars a year above what it brings in. Bring on the sequestration. The never ending spending will end up much worse then the short term pain of the sequester.

[Garnier Fructis]

The US gov cannot continue to keep spending over a trillion dollars a year above what it brings in. Bring on the sequestration. The never ending spending will end up much worse then the short term pain of the sequester.

Why not? Reagan spent his way out of a recession and the debt he incurred was fixed later by others.

[smelltheglove]

Why not? Reagan spent his way out of a recession and the debt he incurred was fixed later by others.

pshah, reagan was a deity in human form that eliminated taxes, was a paragon for the 2nd amendment, and personally broke communism with stones fired from his jockstrap

/sarcasm for those that missed it, lol

[mvaliz]

...And the US fanatics that used the nuke on Japan because they couldn't win the war are gone too.

With tensions growing up between Korea / Japan and China, I would't reduce your pacific defense.

Inc Gundams on Pearl Harbors

Ok... Korea I get (specifically North Korea)...

But Japan and China? eh? China, if anything, will have to face a civil war when their economy blows up - and Japan doesn't have a military to speak of anymore, unless they're going to throw Hello Kitty plushies and singing toilets at us...